Can we please filter out HTML blinks? March 31, 2013 6:25 AM Subscribe

Didn't realise it was possible but stuff like this is really obnoxious. Is this the right place to ask for blinks and marquees to be filtered out?
posted by epo to Feature Requests at 6:25 AM (67 comments total)

I just deleted that blink tag. These tags are useful / fun / okay once in a blue moon and rarely abused. Just contact us if you see misuse and it will be gone in the blink of an eye.
posted by taz (staff) at 6:30 AM on March 31, 2013 [3 favorites]

I thought I was going mad, it was there but when I previewed my link it was gone. Can't we just ban them anyway?
posted by epo at 6:34 AM on March 31, 2013

There are very rare cases where they are okay, and there's always someone on the other end of the contact form. Or just flag as "display error" and we'll probably figure it out. (None of the browsers I use show those tags, actually... I'll have to see if that's configurable, so I'll notice them right away.)
posted by taz (staff) at 6:42 AM on March 31, 2013

Can't we just ban them anyway?

W^{h^h}^hh_{h_y_{would you want to do that?}}
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 6:46 AM on March 31, 2013 [21 favorites]

It's definitely inappropriate in AskMe, but occasionally used for lighthearted fun elsewhere on the site. Why do you hate fun so much?
posted by Horace Rumpole at 6:54 AM on March 31, 2013 [11 favorites]

epo: "I thought I was going mad, it was there but when I previewed my link it was gone. Can't we just ban them anyway?"

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
posted by double block and bleed at 6:55 AM on March 31, 2013 [2 favorites]

Why do you hate fun so much?
posted by Horace Rumpole at 2:54 PM on March 31

Because hating fun is fun.
posted by Decani at 7:01 AM on March 31, 2013 [4 favorites]

It's definitely inappropriate in AskMe, but occasionally used for lighthearted fun elsewhere on the site. Why do you hate fun so much?

Because, as Nicol Williamson notably said, "a dream to some; a nightmare to others!
posted by GenjiandProust at 7:21 AM on March 31, 2013

Why do you hate fun so much? Blinkies and marquees are HTML masturbation. Some forms of fun should be kept to oneself.
posted by epo at 7:25 AM on March 31, 2013 [2 favorites]

You will take the blink tag out of my cold, dead hands. Unless you offer inline images as a tradesies, in which case fuck the blink tag.
posted by Think_Long at 7:25 AM on March 31, 2013 [11 favorites]

^ others like mutual masturbation.
Why are you such a Puritan in denying others their fun?
( You do realize there is a contact form don't you?)
posted by adamvasco at 7:32 AM on March 31, 2013

mething is wrong with the marquee tag. Now that you mention it, I think so
posted by griphus at 7:35 AM on March 31, 2013 [7 favorites]

Am I meant to understand that overuse of the blink tag will make me go blind?
posted by GenjiandProust at 7:37 AM on March 31, 2013 [1 favorite]

No, but it may cause me to poke you in the eye.
posted by arcticseal at 7:38 AM on March 31, 2013 [3 favorites]

If this is truly one of those things up with which you can not put, you can use the Stylish extension for Firefox or Chrome and never see any blinking text again.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 7:49 AM on March 31, 2013 [5 favorites]

I've forwarded Inky, Pinky & Clyde your address, sir. Look forward to GHOST HIJINX.
posted by mintcake! at 7:50 AM on March 31, 2013 [2 favorites]

Oh man. I think that this is my first callout.

Sorry about the blinking. It was really early and I was feeling...punchy. (And when I went to check on the thread and see if anyone had anything better to say...which they did, I noticed my text wasn't blinking. So my thought was that the blink tag just doesn't work here. And I was actually a little relieved because I was kind of embarassed that I had been so showboaty with my answer.)
posted by bilabial at 8:06 AM on March 31, 2013 [1 favorite]

yeah, now that I've checked it in FF, I think we may have the marquee tag disabled here.
posted by taz (staff) at 8:10 AM on March 31, 2013

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posted by double block and bleed at 8:10 AM on March 31, 2013 [9 favorites]

Is that from the Onanism Mahjong set?
posted by laconic skeuomorph at 8:13 AM on March 31, 2013 [4 favorites]

That's the Malcolm Gladwell Pinochle deck.
posted by mintcake! at 8:15 AM on March 31, 2013 [3 favorites]

In Firefox, you can set browser.blink_allowed to false in about:config.
posted by Lorin at 8:28 AM on March 31, 2013 [1 favorite]

Marquee has been disabled for years and years. Possibly as long or longer than img.
posted by Sys Rq at 8:28 AM on March 31, 2013

I thought we just had really self-disciplined members.
posted by taz (staff) at 8:36 AM on March 31, 2013 [56 favorites]

</hibbert laugh>
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 8:40 AM on March 31, 2013 [8 favorites]

Hibbert laugh.
posted by Ice Cream Socialist at 8:42 AM on March 31, 2013 [1 favorite]

Some forms of fun should be kept to oneself.

That's what she said!

Wait, I think I did that wrong.
posted by cjorgensen at 8:45 AM on March 31, 2013 [2 favorites]

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posted by Sys Rq at 8:47 AM on March 31, 2013 [12 favorites]

nobody hates you.
posted by unliteral at 8:50 AM on March 31, 2013 [6 favorites]

I sense an emergent pattern.
posted by cjorgensen at 8:53 AM on March 31, 2013

I thought we just had really self-disciplined members.

that's because they keep busy spanking themselves
posted by pyramid termite at 8:57 AM on March 31, 2013 [3 favorites]

Somebody get that marquee shit going with some ascii.
posted by phaedon at 9:21 AM on March 31, 2013

Horace Rumpole: "It's definitely inappropriate in AskMe"

I disagree. I've used blink to accent a warning when something is really really dangerous and I think that is a good use of blink in Ask. EG:

WARNING Sticking your fingers (or any other fleshy protuberance) into a live electrical socket could kill you (and it'll hurt the whole time you are dying).

And it's effective because blink is so rare.

And really a single word blinking is a very minor annoyance but even if you think it's the worset thing since neon polyester suits it can be mitigated with your scroll wheel/arrow keys/pg dn button.
posted by Mitheral at 9:37 AM on March 31, 2013 [1 favorite]

Complaining about the blink tag? I did that once, and look what happened.

Oh, that thread... good times.
posted by Rhomboid at 10:10 AM on March 31, 2013 [1 favorite]

I disagree with using blink as an intensifier. Visual spacing and bold text are well understood signifiers and are used everywhere including all over the place in offline consumer manuals.

Can you imagine what the user manual for your toaster would look like if the blink tag was available?
posted by Tell Me No Lies at 10:12 AM on March 31, 2013 [2 favorites]

fucking incredible?
posted by Think_Long at 10:18 AM on March 31, 2013 [17 favorites]

I've used blink to accent a warning when something is really really dangerous and I think that is a good use of blink in Ask.

Not commenting on your use specifically but we have many users who seem to use frequent and repetitive intensifiers so much so that it obscures their message and generates flags, etc. So, we leave this up to people's own best judgment for the most part; at the same time people are not always great at assessing what is really important relative to other people's standards (I think we all agree that electrocution is bad, but do we all agree that eating candy off the ground is bad? exactly) so it's worth erring on the side of almost never using it except for pure goofery and threats to life and limb.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 10:29 AM on March 31, 2013 [1 favorite]

I think the blink tag should make the text closer every time I look away from the screen.
posted by GenjiandProust at 10:39 AM on March 31, 2013 [28 favorites]

I can see where it could be over used jessamyn; I just don't think its use should be verboten. IMHO a single blinking word is a lot less annoying than say an entire paragraph of text being used as a hyperlink anchor. Egregious use can and should be handled case by case in a FIAMO manner unless this is creating a lot of work for mods.
posted by Mitheral at 11:05 AM on March 31, 2013

Yup, you and I are in total agreement.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 11:06 AM on March 31, 2013

I believe Chrome doesn't even display it - if you flag something blinky and it doesn't get fixed, do drop us a line because otherwise I might assume it was mis-flagged. (Although I see taz's marquee just fine...)
posted by restless_nomad (staff) at 11:26 AM on March 31, 2013

....this is discriminating against the htmlely challenged. Anyhow, that blink thing...I was blinking out of sync...the wheel spoke effect...didn't know it was blinking until someone brought it up.

I'm glad you guys are having so much fun with this.
posted by mule98J at 11:31 AM on March 31, 2013

Yeah, Safari isn't showing me the blinkies either and I would never have known. Weird!
posted by LobsterMitten (staff) at 11:40 AM on March 31, 2013

Eideteker won that earlier thread:

Just blink your eyes once a second and you won't notice it.
posted by Tell Me No Lies at 11:55 AM on March 31, 2013 [2 favorites]

But...
posted by 256 at 11:58 AM on March 31, 2013

restless_nomad: "I believe Chrome doesn't even display it"

Holy, shit. I was wondering why this thread wasn't chock full of blinking...
posted by brundlefly at 12:20 PM on March 31, 2013

Egregious use can and should be handled case by case in a FIAMO manner unless this is creating a lot of work for mods.

I totally agree. If by "egregious" you mean "every single time". If the mods want to every case out one at a time that’s cool with me.
posted by bongo_x at 12:59 PM on March 31, 2013

I thought we just had really self-disciplined members.

Enough already with the masturbation references.
posted by benito.strauss at 1:14 PM on March 31, 2013

Blink is about all that is left of the fun days of old. The sly use of img, big, etc. gave Mefites wide opportunity for creating amusing/outrageous comments.
posted by Cranberry at 1:30 PM on March 31, 2013 [1 favorite]

MeTa threads full of <img>Pissing_Elephant.jpg</img> weren't exactly sly.
posted by double block and bleed at 1:54 PM on March 31, 2013

Poom!
posted by homunculus at 2:04 PM on March 31, 2013 [3 favorites]

These kinds of threads were a lot more fun when we had more cool things.
posted by meehawl at 2:56 PM on March 31, 2013 [1 favorite]

I will forgive you your blink for your poom.
posted by GenjiandProust at 3:28 PM on March 31, 2013

Ah yes. Thanks for the memories meehawl
It was like watching magicians at play.
posted by adamvasco at 3:47 PM on March 31, 2013

Taking of things not working in Chrome, Sys Rq's comment shows up as mostly box characters in Chrome for me (works fine in Firefox).

Does this happen to anyone else and/or does anyone know how to fix it?
posted by bjrn at 5:28 PM on March 31, 2013

jessamyn: "Not commenting on your use specifically but we have many users who seem to use frequent and repetitive intensifiers so much so that it obscures their message and generates flags, etc."

So, does anyone read comic books and actually stress the bolded words mentally?

Like, when Superman says "I have to destroy the antenna before it can shoot any more mind control rays at the gentle people of Metropolis," does anyone actually mentally read those words as stressed? Because I've tried, and it is absolutely exhausting. I just cannot understand why they do that.
posted by Bugbread at 6:44 PM on March 31, 2013 [3 favorites]

HELLO! IS THIS THE ALL-CAPS CENTER-JUSTIFIED COURIER BOLD THREAD??
posted by not_on_display at 7:55 PM on March 31, 2013 [9 favorites]

Complaining about the blink tag? I did that once, and look what happened.

Completely off topic, but how is it that some of the font styles (colour, type, size etc.) earlier in that thread remain after the code was fixed? Not to mention that rogue smiley in the logo!
posted by moody cow at 8:38 PM on March 31, 2013

The code that was fixed was in "deleting tags during posting"; matt didn't go back and delete any existing tags except for a couple site breaking examples.
posted by Mitheral at 8:41 PM on March 31, 2013

Cool, thanks.
posted by moody cow at 8:51 PM on March 31, 2013

Didn't realise it was possible but stuff like this is really obnoxious.

Exactly how much of that comment was blinking? Because...

While this would be obnoxious:

You're right. You should not do the text back and forth thing.

you should call her

When you call her, ask her some questions about her weekend, figure out what activities she enjoys. Ask her of she's seen any good movies/read any great books.

[...]

If it was more like this:

You're right. You should not do the text back and forth thing.

you should call her

When you call her, ask her some questions about her weekend, figure out what activities she enjoys. Ask her of she's seen any good movies/read any great books.

[...]

You might consider the obnoxious in yourself before complaining about others.

Also: Free the image tag!!!
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posted by not_on_display at 2:36 PM on April 1, 2013 [7 favorites]

The blinking part was

you should call her

posted by bilabial at 4:55 AM on April 2, 2013

Be careful with that -- in a few years they'll make some change to how the comment display code handles line breaks that renders all your old ascii art comments unintelligible even though you spent a lot of effort ensuring that they displayed correctly at the time. Yes, I'm bitter.
posted by Rhomboid at 7:31 AM on April 2, 2013

Now I'm feeling all wistful for under construction shovel guy gifs, "Netscape Now" buttons and Infoseek.
posted by usonian at 12:46 PM on April 2, 2013

Firefox May Drop Support for Tags, Finally
posted by homunculus at 6:59 PM on April 10, 2013

homunculus: "Firefox May Drop Support for Tags, Finally"

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
posted by double block and bleed at 5:28 AM on April 11, 2013

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