I don't think our vegetarian friends would care for MeatFilter August 4, 2011 10:04 PM Subscribe
Eat.MeFi.Pony
The Yelp thread had several people saying there should be an Eat.Metafilter or some delicious equivalent. I actually think it could be good. Genuinely written reviews by MeFis of places they've been and the delectable morsels they've masticated. I know it's a little outside of a Metafiltery type deal in that it would be content people write as opposed to the style of the Blue. Maybe too much of an opening for people to be bloggish? Anyhow I think I'd enjoy.
There's the added bonus of "Yeah, I saw this place on Eat.Me."
The Yelp thread had several people saying there should be an Eat.Metafilter or some delicious equivalent. I actually think it could be good. Genuinely written reviews by MeFis of places they've been and the delectable morsels they've masticated. I know it's a little outside of a Metafiltery type deal in that it would be content people write as opposed to the style of the Blue. Maybe too much of an opening for people to be bloggish? Anyhow I think I'd enjoy.
There's the added bonus of "Yeah, I saw this place on Eat.Me."
Pumpkin!
posted by The Whelk at 10:11 PM on August 4, 2011 [4 favorites]
posted by The Whelk at 10:11 PM on August 4, 2011 [4 favorites]
Orange is reserved for BetaFilter. You know this.
posted by troll at 10:12 PM on August 4, 2011 [3 favorites]
posted by troll at 10:12 PM on August 4, 2011 [3 favorites]
I have a shelved project that's related and languishing unused. If people want, it would be easy enough to add in restaurant/city details. That said, it takes more from Livejournal than from Mefi, and it lacks the catchy name.
posted by frimble at 10:21 PM on August 4, 2011
posted by frimble at 10:21 PM on August 4, 2011
I like the idea but we really don't want to re-invent the wheel, or Yelp for that matter. There's a great page on the wiki called EatMe that's got an accumulation of food-related AskMes. I know that's not the same, but it's a neat thing in its own right.
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 10:21 PM on August 4, 2011 [4 favorites]
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 10:21 PM on August 4, 2011 [4 favorites]
It would be super neat if someone decided to curate a blog for mefite foodie nerdery; as a subsite of Metafilter itself I don't see it happening.
There's a pretty great EatMe page on the wiki.
posted by cortex (staff) at 10:21 PM on August 4, 2011 [1 favorite]
There's a pretty great EatMe page on the wiki.
posted by cortex (staff) at 10:21 PM on August 4, 2011 [1 favorite]
How about a place where MeFites can detail trips or exciting things they do in specific locales so that the best vacations/new living situations/travel stops can be had every time?
posted by carsonb at 10:28 PM on August 4, 2011 [7 favorites]
posted by carsonb at 10:28 PM on August 4, 2011 [7 favorites]
Don't be foolish, such an idea us unthinkable.
posted by The Whelk at 10:31 PM on August 4, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by The Whelk at 10:31 PM on August 4, 2011 [1 favorite]
eat me.
posted by babbyʼ); Drop table users; -- at 10:56 PM on August 4, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by babbyʼ); Drop table users; -- at 10:56 PM on August 4, 2011 [1 favorite]
I eat ponies for breakfast
posted by mannequito at 11:07 PM on August 4, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by mannequito at 11:07 PM on August 4, 2011 [1 favorite]
What color would it be?
blood red. we're all carnivores here, right?
posted by philip-random at 11:12 PM on August 4, 2011
blood red. we're all carnivores here, right?
posted by philip-random at 11:12 PM on August 4, 2011
I eat breakfast for lunch
I call it brunch
posted by aubilenon at 11:13 PM on August 4, 2011 [4 favorites]
I call it brunch
posted by aubilenon at 11:13 PM on August 4, 2011 [4 favorites]
If not raw-meat-read or pumpkin-orange, I'd recommend a banana-yellow. Although in ten years when the banana blight makes them extinct, we could say it was lemon-yellow or egg-yolk-yellow.
posted by oneswellfoop at 11:32 PM on August 4, 2011
posted by oneswellfoop at 11:32 PM on August 4, 2011
I call it brunch
I thought brunch was breakfast with booze... Or, as I like to call it: breakfast.
posted by pompomtom at 11:51 PM on August 4, 2011 [5 favorites]
I thought brunch was breakfast with booze... Or, as I like to call it: breakfast.
posted by pompomtom at 11:51 PM on August 4, 2011 [5 favorites]
I eat shit like you for breakfast.
Yes, I eat shit.
posted by XhaustedProphet at 12:10 AM on August 5, 2011 [1 favorite]
Yes, I eat shit.
posted by XhaustedProphet at 12:10 AM on August 5, 2011 [1 favorite]
Never mind the colour, what texture would it be?
posted by arcticseal at 12:51 AM on August 5, 2011
posted by arcticseal at 12:51 AM on August 5, 2011
I think it should be restricted to cheese reviews and called Fetafilter.
posted by lollusc at 12:54 AM on August 5, 2011 [9 favorites]
posted by lollusc at 12:54 AM on August 5, 2011 [9 favorites]
Would posting a recipe at this juncture constitute a re-railing of the thread?
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 1:19 AM on August 5, 2011
posted by Blazecock Pileon at 1:19 AM on August 5, 2011
Not drink recipes!
Citrus Drinkus:
3 parts limoncello
1 part sweet vermouth
3 parts ginger ale
2 parts lemon juice
Serve with ice.
posted by aubilenon at 2:01 AM on August 5, 2011 [2 favorites]
Citrus Drinkus:
3 parts limoncello
1 part sweet vermouth
3 parts ginger ale
2 parts lemon juice
Serve with ice.
posted by aubilenon at 2:01 AM on August 5, 2011 [2 favorites]
what texture would it be?
Smooth as eggs.
posted by XhaustedProphet at 2:28 AM on August 5, 2011 [2 favorites]
Smooth as eggs.
posted by XhaustedProphet at 2:28 AM on August 5, 2011 [2 favorites]
I remember that Matt was totally resistant to the idea of an Ask subsite for Metafilter for literally years. People kept asking him, he was like '...well, yeah, nah...'
Then somebody, I can't remember who, put up an unofficial one that was more than just a click-here-to-install deal, and like a week later (coincidence or not, I have no idea) Ask was launched.
I dunno what I'm doing here other than reminiscing about the good old days, those sultry internet August days, but: Matt leaves a shitload of money on the table all the damned time with the whole 'let's not re-invent the wheel' thing. That is, according to the INDUSTRY, not what you should do with a massive dedicated userbase.
Thing is, I respect him for it. It's the same respect I have for the Deck, as well. No neediness to grow, and grow, and grow and then sell (or go the cliché IPO route or whatever) -- just reach a nice maintainable size, slowly ramp up, monetize without pissing off your userbase, and then instead of flailing out all over the map, just hone down and make the core experience smoother and smarter and faster and better.
Dunno how much of that is deliberate on Mr H's part, but I suspect quite a bit, and that's why many oldfart internet people including myself reckon he's a smart fella.
So: yeah, but nah.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 2:47 AM on August 5, 2011 [6 favorites]
Then somebody, I can't remember who, put up an unofficial one that was more than just a click-here-to-install deal, and like a week later (coincidence or not, I have no idea) Ask was launched.
I dunno what I'm doing here other than reminiscing about the good old days, those sultry internet August days, but: Matt leaves a shitload of money on the table all the damned time with the whole 'let's not re-invent the wheel' thing. That is, according to the INDUSTRY, not what you should do with a massive dedicated userbase.
Thing is, I respect him for it. It's the same respect I have for the Deck, as well. No neediness to grow, and grow, and grow and then sell (or go the cliché IPO route or whatever) -- just reach a nice maintainable size, slowly ramp up, monetize without pissing off your userbase, and then instead of flailing out all over the map, just hone down and make the core experience smoother and smarter and faster and better.
Dunno how much of that is deliberate on Mr H's part, but I suspect quite a bit, and that's why many oldfart internet people including myself reckon he's a smart fella.
So: yeah, but nah.
posted by stavrosthewonderchicken at 2:47 AM on August 5, 2011 [6 favorites]
Or, we could post questions on ask every time we get hungry once a week
what's that great [ taqueria thai | cafe | burger joint | bar ] within [ 1 | 5 ] [ blocks | miles ] of [ lat/lon | CITY ] ?
Actually, I'll bet one could make an excellent eat.mefi just by creating entries for all the meetup locations.
posted by zippy at 2:57 AM on August 5, 2011
what's that great [ taqueria thai | cafe | burger joint | bar ] within [ 1 | 5 ] [ blocks | miles ] of [ lat/lon | CITY ] ?
Actually, I'll bet one could make an excellent eat.mefi just by creating entries for all the meetup locations.
posted by zippy at 2:57 AM on August 5, 2011
I'm here to eat the pony! Is there anything other than hooves left?
posted by DU at 4:32 AM on August 5, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by DU at 4:32 AM on August 5, 2011 [1 favorite]
Another board I belong to has a recipe wiki that has actually been a very handy thing. We could do this here, too, or has that been shot down before?
posted by Devils Rancher at 4:50 AM on August 5, 2011
posted by Devils Rancher at 4:50 AM on August 5, 2011
Actually, I'll bet one could make an excellent eat.mefi just by creating entries for all the meetup locations.
Essentially a metafilter food guide? I think that's a great idea! I wonder if it could be tacked on to IRL somehow?
posted by zennie at 4:53 AM on August 5, 2011
Essentially a metafilter food guide? I think that's a great idea! I wonder if it could be tacked on to IRL somehow?
posted by zennie at 4:53 AM on August 5, 2011
That is, if it were like a guide book, listing places some members passionately like, and not bothering with places they don't really like.
posted by zennie at 4:58 AM on August 5, 2011
posted by zennie at 4:58 AM on August 5, 2011
Chiming in highly recommend MeFite kaszeta's Off Beat Eats, which he posted on Projects this past January.
posted by terrapin at 5:00 AM on August 5, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by terrapin at 5:00 AM on August 5, 2011 [1 favorite]
I was going to say that I would not eat a pony, but then I remembered that I have been thwarted twice in my efforts to order horse in Japan, so I would be hippocritical to draw the line at ponies.
posted by GenjiandProust at 5:28 AM on August 5, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by GenjiandProust at 5:28 AM on August 5, 2011 [1 favorite]
I love the idea of a cheese-related FetaFilter, lollusc but with so many MeFites on FetLife, I can see some amusing confusion. :)
posted by pointystick at 5:56 AM on August 5, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by pointystick at 5:56 AM on August 5, 2011 [1 favorite]
I'm somewhat tempted to agree with smackfu. If we were to try something like this, you have to give some thought on how to structure it, since I've always thought that most review lists end up suffering from (a) massive inconsistency (hmmm, both French Laundry and the McDonalds in Toms River NJ get 4 stars....), (b) argument (food reviews can bring out some really odd and strong emotions in people), and (c) poor culling of outdated data.
I think we could structure something to work around (a), and (c) is something that I think the mefi crowd would actually be good at. (b) is where I'd have the biggest concerns about a mefi effort on this front, because we can very often be a cranky and jaded community.
Myself, if I were to try and set something up for this, I'd probably try and do the same thing we do with the main mefi site: leverage the resources of the web, and have a good mechanism for people to collect and point to existing reviews, menus, etc, for places, with the same caveat as the main site: don't point to your own stuff. But that's just my food for thought.
posted by kaszeta at 6:07 AM on August 5, 2011
I think we could structure something to work around (a), and (c) is something that I think the mefi crowd would actually be good at. (b) is where I'd have the biggest concerns about a mefi effort on this front, because we can very often be a cranky and jaded community.
Myself, if I were to try and set something up for this, I'd probably try and do the same thing we do with the main mefi site: leverage the resources of the web, and have a good mechanism for people to collect and point to existing reviews, menus, etc, for places, with the same caveat as the main site: don't point to your own stuff. But that's just my food for thought.
posted by kaszeta at 6:07 AM on August 5, 2011
I already use AskMe (in conjunction with Chowhound, TripAdvisor, UrbanSpoon, eGullet, and people I know in person) to suss out where to eat and do other stuff out of town--has worked brilliantly in Spain, the Caribbean, Canada, and all over the US. Most of what you want is in there, you just have to dig around via tags and search. And when it's not, just post a question.
posted by ifjuly at 7:13 AM on August 5, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by ifjuly at 7:13 AM on August 5, 2011 [1 favorite]
I have been thwarted twice in my efforts to order horse in Japan
Come to the next meet-up, we'll get you your basashi. It's delicious. Absolutely delicious.*
Also, this would probably be the fifth time I've added my support to CookMe/FoodMe/EatMe/OmnomnomMe. I'd like it, even if all of the patiently explained reasons for not having it make total and complete sense (yes, Jessamyn and Cortex, I really do understand why Ask is a perfectly good place for all of this, and yet... I want my pony).
*Better than horse? Donkey. Seriously. A colleague at the university in China where I was teaching ordered donkey, thinking it would disgust the laowai. It was delicious. Like corned beef. Also, it allowed us to make non-stop ass jokes throughout the entire meal. Eeyore? Delicious.
posted by Ghidorah at 7:40 AM on August 5, 2011 [1 favorite]
Come to the next meet-up, we'll get you your basashi. It's delicious. Absolutely delicious.*
Also, this would probably be the fifth time I've added my support to CookMe/FoodMe/EatMe/OmnomnomMe. I'd like it, even if all of the patiently explained reasons for not having it make total and complete sense (yes, Jessamyn and Cortex, I really do understand why Ask is a perfectly good place for all of this, and yet... I want my pony).
*Better than horse? Donkey. Seriously. A colleague at the university in China where I was teaching ordered donkey, thinking it would disgust the laowai. It was delicious. Like corned beef. Also, it allowed us to make non-stop ass jokes throughout the entire meal. Eeyore? Delicious.
posted by Ghidorah at 7:40 AM on August 5, 2011 [1 favorite]
I would destroy this place if the subsite were ever named OmnomnomMe.
Seriously, burn it to the ground.
posted by Think_Long at 8:47 AM on August 5, 2011 [1 favorite]
Seriously, burn it to the ground.
posted by Think_Long at 8:47 AM on August 5, 2011 [1 favorite]
I'd read it.
posted by jeffamaphone at 9:10 AM on August 5, 2011
posted by jeffamaphone at 9:10 AM on August 5, 2011
I still think there's traction here, it's just a question of how to make it useful. I've never given up my wistful love for TravelFilter and would like to find ways to make geographical info contributed by MeFites easily usable across a couple formats for purposes like this, as well as others.
I've also been trying to think of a way to do this in MeFi Mag. I would love to see a department of the Magazine that's like a page of local knowledge info dropped by a MeFite who lives in a given location. It would be structured somewhat like those NYT pieces "36 Hours In..." but might be more focused on one day, and would include that MeFite's picks for meals and snacks as well as sightseeing, pastimes, and unique things to do.
Have I written this as a proposal? Not yet. I'm still not sure it's a viable idea. But I think it would be awesome. "Jessamyn Takes Vermont." "ColdChef Undertakes New Orleans." "Flapjax's Toyko Jam." Something like that.
It's a guidebook style I personally would buy if it were for sale.
posted by Miko at 10:32 AM on August 5, 2011 [1 favorite]
I've also been trying to think of a way to do this in MeFi Mag. I would love to see a department of the Magazine that's like a page of local knowledge info dropped by a MeFite who lives in a given location. It would be structured somewhat like those NYT pieces "36 Hours In..." but might be more focused on one day, and would include that MeFite's picks for meals and snacks as well as sightseeing, pastimes, and unique things to do.
Have I written this as a proposal? Not yet. I'm still not sure it's a viable idea. But I think it would be awesome. "Jessamyn Takes Vermont." "ColdChef Undertakes New Orleans." "Flapjax's Toyko Jam." Something like that.
It's a guidebook style I personally would buy if it were for sale.
posted by Miko at 10:32 AM on August 5, 2011 [1 favorite]
lollusc: "I think it should be restricted to cheese reviews and called Fetafilter"
We can't have a site abbreviated FeFi unless we create a corresponding FoFum.
posted by I am the Walrus at 10:51 AM on August 5, 2011 [5 favorites]
We can't have a site abbreviated FeFi unless we create a corresponding FoFum.
posted by I am the Walrus at 10:51 AM on August 5, 2011 [5 favorites]
"Jessamyn Takes Vermont."
...and refuses to give it back!
posted by The Whelk at 11:39 AM on August 5, 2011
...and refuses to give it back!
posted by The Whelk at 11:39 AM on August 5, 2011
WhatDidIJustEatFilter
posted by pupdog at 4:12 PM on August 5, 2011 [1 favorite]
posted by pupdog at 4:12 PM on August 5, 2011 [1 favorite]
I like this idea. And I like the idea of integrating ask.me stuff, new and old, even the occasional post from the blue. I like it a lot. But I also want a BookFilter. And TravelFilter. And images in everything, after bringing on an image mod, who just did the images. But what I really need from MetaFilter is probably a different thing entirely.
Also, Miko's suggestion about adding this to the magazine makes good sense to me. How about a featured Ask.Me from the archive? Or maybe ask someone to expand on a question or a comment? Some way to link the print and the site.
posted by Toekneesan at 7:15 PM on August 5, 2011 [1 favorite]
Also, Miko's suggestion about adding this to the magazine makes good sense to me. How about a featured Ask.Me from the archive? Or maybe ask someone to expand on a question or a comment? Some way to link the print and the site.
posted by Toekneesan at 7:15 PM on August 5, 2011 [1 favorite]
As an aside there is a meatfilter.com. I know this because I often type it incorrectly. It's a link to an amazon store with cookbooks and I always wonder how much the guy makes. Mostly because I'd love that URL, but I bet he makes enough to never let is expire.
posted by cjorgensen at 7:35 PM on August 5, 2011
posted by cjorgensen at 7:35 PM on August 5, 2011
We can't have a site abbreviated FeFi unless we create a corresponding FoFum.
That would only work in text. If you say it aloud, the correct pronunciation of MeFi (which FeFi would obviously rhyme with) would ruin the joke.
posted by dg at 1:23 PM on August 6, 2011
That would only work in text. If you say it aloud, the correct pronunciation of MeFi (which FeFi would obviously rhyme with) would ruin the joke.
posted by dg at 1:23 PM on August 6, 2011
If you say it aloud, it would force the speaker to use the correct pronunciation of MeFi (which FeFi would obviously rhyme with) or they would ruin the joke.
posted by Lexica at 4:59 PM on August 6, 2011
posted by Lexica at 4:59 PM on August 6, 2011
[fi-faɪ] [fo-fʌm], I hear the sound of bad pro-nun-ci-a-tion.
posted by troll at 5:53 PM on August 6, 2011
posted by troll at 5:53 PM on August 6, 2011
As I type this, the first book on the front page of Meatfilter is Veganomicon: The Ultimate Vegan Cookbook by Isa Chandra Moskowitz.
There are no words.
posted by Scientist at 8:12 AM on August 7, 2011 [1 favorite]
There are no words.
posted by Scientist at 8:12 AM on August 7, 2011 [1 favorite]
So ...
I could probably put something like this together.
What features would you want it to have?
How would you want to link it to your MeFi user name? (I would think that should be optional, but would be a nice feature.)
Please post your pony requests!
posted by kristi at 12:33 PM on August 7, 2011
I could probably put something like this together.
What features would you want it to have?
How would you want to link it to your MeFi user name? (I would think that should be optional, but would be a nice feature.)
Please post your pony requests!
posted by kristi at 12:33 PM on August 7, 2011
EatMe should be aubergine. Tasty, tasty aubergine.
Also, I +1 this idea like it's Google+'s birthday, y'all.
posted by LMGM at 6:47 PM on August 7, 2011 [1 favorite]
Also, I +1 this idea like it's Google+'s birthday, y'all.
posted by LMGM at 6:47 PM on August 7, 2011 [1 favorite]
The thing about yelp is that it has a broad review base but of super-questionable quality and veracity. Here we could probably maintain quality very well, but I think the coverage might be spotty outside of like New York, Chicago, Toronto, the Bay Area and Portland.
All of the metadata you would want to have on reviewed restaurants would be a big old pain in the ass to keep clean, and God help the mods if the thing ever got really popullar because we would end up with the same mob of shills and axe-grinders that infest yelp.
Personally I like the idea of a recipe subsite or wiki a lot more than restaurant reviews, because I bet the quality would be really high and it would be considerably less admin overhead and tsuris to maintain.
posted by strangely stunted trees at 8:51 PM on August 7, 2011 [3 favorites]
All of the metadata you would want to have on reviewed restaurants would be a big old pain in the ass to keep clean, and God help the mods if the thing ever got really popullar because we would end up with the same mob of shills and axe-grinders that infest yelp.
Personally I like the idea of a recipe subsite or wiki a lot more than restaurant reviews, because I bet the quality would be really high and it would be considerably less admin overhead and tsuris to maintain.
posted by strangely stunted trees at 8:51 PM on August 7, 2011 [3 favorites]
It would be super neat if someone decided to curate a blog for mefite foodie nerdery
Okay, I threw together a super-quick mockup here:
http://foodietravel.kristi-wachter.com
What do you all think? Is there a desire for this?
It seems to me that limiting the membership somewhat would help keep it from turning into a Yelp-like morass, so I was kind of thinking of starting with MeFites, who could share invitations, and maybe I could also invite any food bloggers y'all like, or something. I've really only barely begun to think this through.
Some of my ideas:
* we could have sections for Recipes, Restaurants, and Travel (I'd love thoughts about how to do travel stuff - one section for attractions and one for lodging)?
* we could do weekly (or daily) (or hourly!) posts asking for x - marinade recipes, or Mexican restaurants, or stuff to do in Akron - to encourage some content in there
* MeFites could do a Comment Export and send it to me, and I could (as time permits) pull out recipes, restaurant reviews, etc. - this would be a semi-easy way for MeFites who dig this idea to seed the site with their existing recipes etc
Features I want to add:
* 5-star ratings (possibly on various features, so restaurants could have overall rating, service, food, value)
* location, so users could enter a location, or if they left it blank, I could (as time permits) add in the location - Drupal's Location module can work with Google Maps, do proximity searches, etc
Note that I'm a huge MetaFilter fangirl and I don't want to do anything to annoy or offend the fine Filter folks.
So ... is this something you'd like to have? If so, what do you want it to be?
posted by kristi at 11:25 AM on August 9, 2011
Okay, I threw together a super-quick mockup here:
http://foodietravel.kristi-wachter.com
What do you all think? Is there a desire for this?
It seems to me that limiting the membership somewhat would help keep it from turning into a Yelp-like morass, so I was kind of thinking of starting with MeFites, who could share invitations, and maybe I could also invite any food bloggers y'all like, or something. I've really only barely begun to think this through.
Some of my ideas:
* we could have sections for Recipes, Restaurants, and Travel (I'd love thoughts about how to do travel stuff - one section for attractions and one for lodging)?
* we could do weekly (or daily) (or hourly!) posts asking for x - marinade recipes, or Mexican restaurants, or stuff to do in Akron - to encourage some content in there
* MeFites could do a Comment Export and send it to me, and I could (as time permits) pull out recipes, restaurant reviews, etc. - this would be a semi-easy way for MeFites who dig this idea to seed the site with their existing recipes etc
Features I want to add:
* 5-star ratings (possibly on various features, so restaurants could have overall rating, service, food, value)
* location, so users could enter a location, or if they left it blank, I could (as time permits) add in the location - Drupal's Location module can work with Google Maps, do proximity searches, etc
Note that I'm a huge MetaFilter fangirl and I don't want to do anything to annoy or offend the fine Filter folks.
So ... is this something you'd like to have? If so, what do you want it to be?
posted by kristi at 11:25 AM on August 9, 2011
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