WTF Matt? January 26, 2008 4:43 PM Subscribe
WTF Matt?
Just because Number 1 should not be exempt from callouts, let's just say that if I had posted that I would have been called out here on MeTa in milliseconds. I think you shouldn't abuse your position as Number 1 to post stoopid shit on the front page.
I figured it would be better to post my protest here on MeTa because I don't want to interrupt the sublime discourse on the Blue.
If you wanna post stuff like this, GYOFB.
Just because Number 1 should not be exempt from callouts, let's just say that if I had posted that I would have been called out here on MeTa in milliseconds. I think you shouldn't abuse your position as Number 1 to post stoopid shit on the front page.
I figured it would be better to post my protest here on MeTa because I don't want to interrupt the sublime discourse on the Blue.
If you wanna post stuff like this, GYOFB.
flag it and move the fuck on.
posted by BuddhaInABucket at 4:47 PM on January 26, 2008 [2 favorites]
posted by BuddhaInABucket at 4:47 PM on January 26, 2008 [2 favorites]
Er. Maaaaaybe someone would have called you out. They would have been pretty badly overreacting, if they did. People can and do post really stupid, silly things to the site now and then, and it either gets deleted or not, based on flagging and in-thread reactions.
I think you're reading way too much into this.
posted by cortex (staff) at 4:47 PM on January 26, 2008
I think you're reading way too much into this.
posted by cortex (staff) at 4:47 PM on January 26, 2008
Doohickle, get the fuck over yourself. We've had much worse posts, even of the one-link-youtube variety.
posted by tkolar at 4:47 PM on January 26, 2008
posted by tkolar at 4:47 PM on January 26, 2008
Nice.
posted by puke & cry at 4:49 PM on January 26, 2008
posted by puke & cry at 4:49 PM on January 26, 2008
Are you seriously saying we delete all goofy youtube comedy videos, especially about familiar topics? And that it's only up because I did it?
I thought it was funny. If someone else posted it, I would have said "that's hilarious" in a comment, not delete it. There is goofball comedy stuff on MeFi all the time and we tend to delete only the unfunny stupid and offensive types of comedy.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 4:49 PM on January 26, 2008 [1 favorite]
I thought it was funny. If someone else posted it, I would have said "that's hilarious" in a comment, not delete it. There is goofball comedy stuff on MeFi all the time and we tend to delete only the unfunny stupid and offensive types of comedy.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 4:49 PM on January 26, 2008 [1 favorite]
Just when the 26th of January looked like it was going to be a MetaTalk-free day.
*sigh*
posted by kisch mokusch at 4:51 PM on January 26, 2008
*sigh*
posted by kisch mokusch at 4:51 PM on January 26, 2008
And yes, get over yourself.
posted by puke & cry at 4:53 PM on January 26, 2008
posted by puke & cry at 4:53 PM on January 26, 2008
Remember, remember the 26th of January!
posted by katillathehun at 4:55 PM on January 26, 2008
posted by katillathehun at 4:55 PM on January 26, 2008
Also, WTF is up with airline food?
posted by allen.spaulding at 5:06 PM on January 26, 2008
posted by allen.spaulding at 5:06 PM on January 26, 2008
We go almost 31 fucking hrs without a fucking pointless callout for this? What the fuck Doohickie?
posted by Razzle Bathbone at 5:10 PM on January 26, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by Razzle Bathbone at 5:10 PM on January 26, 2008 [1 favorite]
Yeah, I've gotta go with the WTF Doohickie? crowd. This is lame.
posted by languagehat at 5:12 PM on January 26, 2008
posted by languagehat at 5:12 PM on January 26, 2008
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: That guy has been self-linking since day one!
I LOVE MATT's FPPs!!!!
They make me realize I usually aim wayyyy too high before posting. :)
(Don't ban me bro!)
posted by The Deej at 5:14 PM on January 26, 2008 [1 favorite]
I LOVE MATT's FPPs!!!!
They make me realize I usually aim wayyyy too high before posting. :)
(Don't ban me bro!)
posted by The Deej at 5:14 PM on January 26, 2008 [1 favorite]
Lighten up, Doohickie. Jeez. Just cuz you didn't think it was funny doesn't mean it was out of place on the blue.
posted by BitterOldPunk at 5:16 PM on January 26, 2008
posted by BitterOldPunk at 5:16 PM on January 26, 2008
Doohickie: If you wanna post stuff like this, GYOFB.
Is this a joke?
Well, in case it isn't, Doohickie, let me just say that if anybody else had posted that link, we'd all be just as pissed off at you for calling them out. This is fucking silly.
posted by koeselitz at 5:16 PM on January 26, 2008 [1 favorite]
Is this a joke?
Well, in case it isn't, Doohickie, let me just say that if anybody else had posted that link, we'd all be just as pissed off at you for calling them out. This is fucking silly.
posted by koeselitz at 5:16 PM on January 26, 2008 [1 favorite]
I liked it and I really don't see why people would get their panties in a bunch over a single youtube link anyway, as long as it's funny and/or interesting. I'd rather see the one link, than someone try to tack on a bunch of extraneous bullshit just so it wasn't a single youtube link.
posted by MaryDellamorte at 5:19 PM on January 26, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by MaryDellamorte at 5:19 PM on January 26, 2008 [1 favorite]
Oh, and on a serious note, I doubt anyone would call out this FPP if it was posted by anyone else. There's plenty of self-admittedly stupid posts on the blue on a regular basis.
Now... 'scuse me while I get back to crafting my perfect cat-scan post.
posted by The Deej at 5:20 PM on January 26, 2008
Now... 'scuse me while I get back to crafting my perfect cat-scan post.
posted by The Deej at 5:20 PM on January 26, 2008
Bizarre call out. Really, do you flag every jokey yt post, or only the ones that allow you to wag a finger at an admin? Bad form, sir.
posted by maryh at 5:21 PM on January 26, 2008
posted by maryh at 5:21 PM on January 26, 2008
Doohickie, the internet called and it wanted me to pass along a message.
It thinks you're an idiot.
posted by purephase at 5:24 PM on January 26, 2008 [1 favorite]
It thinks you're an idiot.
posted by purephase at 5:24 PM on January 26, 2008 [1 favorite]
Just let the alcohol sort itself out. Dookie is probably sound asleep by now.
posted by puke & cry at 5:25 PM on January 26, 2008
posted by puke & cry at 5:25 PM on January 26, 2008
If you wanna post stuff like this, GYOFB.
I believe he did.
posted by ThePinkSuperhero at 5:25 PM on January 26, 2008 [2 favorites]
I believe he did.
posted by ThePinkSuperhero at 5:25 PM on January 26, 2008 [2 favorites]
Just because Metafilter set's a higher bar doesn't mean that occasionally we all need a good laugh.
I for one welcome our new single link youtube posting overlord.
posted by jeffamaphone at 5:25 PM on January 26, 2008 [1 favorite]
I for one welcome our new single link youtube posting overlord.
posted by jeffamaphone at 5:25 PM on January 26, 2008 [1 favorite]
(Oh, and it's not too late to tell everyone this callout is just a joke.)
posted by The Deej at 5:26 PM on January 26, 2008
posted by The Deej at 5:26 PM on January 26, 2008
it's only still up because matt posted it. It is only full of people saying it was funny because matt posted it. They are fawning and pissing on themselves like lowly dogs.
If anyone else had posted it, it would have been loudly decried by the baying masses and removed within a space of 25 minutes. The hypocrisy and sycophancy of Metafilter as microcosm of the precious human race demonstrated amply once again.
The only vaguely good point about it is that it demonstrates the proprietor of Mefi is OK with shitty one-link puerile posts, and thus should be linked and brought up again as an example any time another such post is flagged or deleted.
posted by Henry C. Mabuse at 5:29 PM on January 26, 2008 [11 favorites]
If anyone else had posted it, it would have been loudly decried by the baying masses and removed within a space of 25 minutes. The hypocrisy and sycophancy of Metafilter as microcosm of the precious human race demonstrated amply once again.
The only vaguely good point about it is that it demonstrates the proprietor of Mefi is OK with shitty one-link puerile posts, and thus should be linked and brought up again as an example any time another such post is flagged or deleted.
posted by Henry C. Mabuse at 5:29 PM on January 26, 2008 [11 favorites]
Just because Number 1 should not be exempt from callouts,
Begging the question.
posted by George_Spiggott at 5:29 PM on January 26, 2008 [2 favorites]
Begging the question.
posted by George_Spiggott at 5:29 PM on January 26, 2008 [2 favorites]
Panties intertwisteroonies! I'm tellin' Mom! Wrinkles at 11!
posted by y2karl at 5:30 PM on January 26, 2008
posted by y2karl at 5:30 PM on January 26, 2008
I really don't see why people would get their panties in a bunch
WTF you crazy broad, that's sexist!
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 5:32 PM on January 26, 2008
Purephase, you should have posted this video with your comment.
posted by MaryDellamorte at 5:33 PM on January 26, 2008
posted by MaryDellamorte at 5:33 PM on January 26, 2008
it's only still up because matt posted it. It is only full of people saying it was funny because matt posted it. They are fawning and pissing on themselves like lowly dogs.
If anyone else had posted it, it would have been loudly decried by the baying masses and removed within a space of 25 minutes. The hypocrisy and sycophancy of Metafilter as microcosm of the precious human race demonstrated amply once again.
The only vaguely good point about it is that it demonstrates the proprietor of Mefi is OK with shitty one-link puerile posts, and thus should be linked and brought up again as an example any time another such post is flagged or deleted.
Nah, I didn't even notice it was Matt's, I just laughed.
posted by pupdog at 5:33 PM on January 26, 2008 [1 favorite]
If anyone else had posted it, it would have been loudly decried by the baying masses and removed within a space of 25 minutes. The hypocrisy and sycophancy of Metafilter as microcosm of the precious human race demonstrated amply once again.
The only vaguely good point about it is that it demonstrates the proprietor of Mefi is OK with shitty one-link puerile posts, and thus should be linked and brought up again as an example any time another such post is flagged or deleted.
Nah, I didn't even notice it was Matt's, I just laughed.
posted by pupdog at 5:33 PM on January 26, 2008 [1 favorite]
WTF you crazy broad, that's sexist!
Haha I am crazy...and what makes you think men don't wear panties?
posted by MaryDellamorte at 5:34 PM on January 26, 2008
Haha I am crazy...and what makes you think men don't wear panties?
posted by MaryDellamorte at 5:34 PM on January 26, 2008
Not to say it wouldn't be funny as hell if cortex or jessamyn deleted it on principle.
posted by George_Spiggott at 5:36 PM on January 26, 2008
posted by George_Spiggott at 5:36 PM on January 26, 2008
Wow, you're a fuckin genius, Henry C. Mabuse. I've never heard someone decry Metafilter with such big words. You truly are original in your argument.
posted by puke & cry at 5:36 PM on January 26, 2008
posted by puke & cry at 5:36 PM on January 26, 2008
This callout is predicated on the idea that matthowie has abused his status as admin, superuser and the Alpha Male of this site to post something dumb - a one-link youtube FPP, and it's just not true. It's certainly a stupid link, but it's funny (unlike a link that makes fun of Alzheimer's patients). It's a grey area, but, Christ, Metafilter is the primordial breeding ground of Internet memes, for goodness sake. A link like this is what this site is for. But it had to be funny, and it was indeed a funny, funny one-link YouTube FPP post, which will probably gain popularity across the Internets in the days to come, thanks to matthowie and the good users of this site.
posted by KokuRyu at 5:37 PM on January 26, 2008
posted by KokuRyu at 5:37 PM on January 26, 2008
I kinda thought it sucked but then I just moved on. And here I am in MetaTalk not being a jerk about it.
I really like me sometimes.
posted by sveskemus at 5:41 PM on January 26, 2008 [20 favorites]
I really like me sometimes.
posted by sveskemus at 5:41 PM on January 26, 2008 [20 favorites]
"Wow, you're a fuckin genius, Henry C. Mabuse. I've never heard someone decry Metafilter with such big words. You truly are original in your argument."
Eh. He just got her from Monkeyfilter, so he's probably just reassembling old rants from there.
posted by klangklangston at 5:42 PM on January 26, 2008
Eh. He just got her from Monkeyfilter, so he's probably just reassembling old rants from there.
posted by klangklangston at 5:42 PM on January 26, 2008
it's only still up because matt posted it. It is only full of people saying it was funny because matt posted it.
I thought it was funny. I've posted at least one thing that was easily as dumb and vulgar, and it also made people here laugh (mostly.) There've been plenty of funny one link posts here, and this is the one you get your feathers all ruffled over? Good lord, stop being such a hall monitor.
posted by maryh at 5:43 PM on January 26, 2008 [1 favorite]
I thought it was funny. I've posted at least one thing that was easily as dumb and vulgar, and it also made people here laugh (mostly.) There've been plenty of funny one link posts here, and this is the one you get your feathers all ruffled over? Good lord, stop being such a hall monitor.
posted by maryh at 5:43 PM on January 26, 2008 [1 favorite]
"Metafilter is the primordial breeding ground of Internet memes"
Bullshit. Slashdot, certainly. 4Chan, unfortunately. Metafilter is too cliquey and antagonistic to outsiders to breed memes that spread beyond its own blue walls. Populism is sneered at here.
"This callout is predicated on the idea that matthowie has abused his status as admin"
Bullshit. This callout is predicated on the fact that matthowie submitted a shitty one-note YouTube link that everyone fell over themselves to praise in a servile manner, when it can be shown that other similar links submitted by other users have been piled-upon and deleted.
Humor is subjective. Claiming it is funny is not a valid argument, as humor is subjective, and other one-link posts of similar comedic quality have been deleted.
"which will probably gain popularity across the Internets in the days to come, thanks to matthowie and the good users of this site."
- I would hope this comment is sarcasm as it is exactly the kind of submissive brown-nosing that should cause the gorge to rise.
posted by Henry C. Mabuse at 5:49 PM on January 26, 2008 [4 favorites]
Bullshit. Slashdot, certainly. 4Chan, unfortunately. Metafilter is too cliquey and antagonistic to outsiders to breed memes that spread beyond its own blue walls. Populism is sneered at here.
"This callout is predicated on the idea that matthowie has abused his status as admin"
Bullshit. This callout is predicated on the fact that matthowie submitted a shitty one-note YouTube link that everyone fell over themselves to praise in a servile manner, when it can be shown that other similar links submitted by other users have been piled-upon and deleted.
Humor is subjective. Claiming it is funny is not a valid argument, as humor is subjective, and other one-link posts of similar comedic quality have been deleted.
"which will probably gain popularity across the Internets in the days to come, thanks to matthowie and the good users of this site."
- I would hope this comment is sarcasm as it is exactly the kind of submissive brown-nosing that should cause the gorge to rise.
posted by Henry C. Mabuse at 5:49 PM on January 26, 2008 [4 favorites]
I thought it was funny. If someone else posted it, I would have said "that's hilarious" in a comment, not delete it.
I shall be using this argument to defend self-linkers.
posted by cillit bang at 5:50 PM on January 26, 2008
I shall be using this argument to defend self-linkers.
posted by cillit bang at 5:50 PM on January 26, 2008
"and this is the one you get your feathers all ruffled over?"
- feathers unruffled. You haven't seen my feathers ruffled. I am making a point. I quite like vulgar humor, but in the past I've been disappointed in the snobbery often displayed here when presented with the like, & I'm taking the opportunity of bringing it up. OK? Or would you rather censor me?
"Eh. He just got her from Monkeyfilter, so he's probably just reassembling old rants from there."
- Thanks for the perfect example of cliquey, holier than thou masturbation that makes Metafilter often so turgid and unpleasant. Less of that and more of the vulgar laughs (without snarkery, which I doubt would be possible) would be a breath of fresh air.
posted by Henry C. Mabuse at 5:53 PM on January 26, 2008
- feathers unruffled. You haven't seen my feathers ruffled. I am making a point. I quite like vulgar humor, but in the past I've been disappointed in the snobbery often displayed here when presented with the like, & I'm taking the opportunity of bringing it up. OK? Or would you rather censor me?
"Eh. He just got her from Monkeyfilter, so he's probably just reassembling old rants from there."
- Thanks for the perfect example of cliquey, holier than thou masturbation that makes Metafilter often so turgid and unpleasant. Less of that and more of the vulgar laughs (without snarkery, which I doubt would be possible) would be a breath of fresh air.
posted by Henry C. Mabuse at 5:53 PM on January 26, 2008
Claiming it is funny is not a valid argument, as humor is subjective, and other one-link posts of similar comedic quality have been deleted.
And yet, claiming it is not funny (and therefore somehow suspect) is similarly invalid, and other one-link posts of similar comedic quality (insofar as we can make a comparison, given the subjectivity you're hanging your position on) have also been well-received and allowed to stand.
This really is a matter of selective memory. Stupid/silly posts are a bit of a crapshoot—sometimes they're badly received, sometimes they're lauded, sometimes it's a mixture of both—but they are certainly not universally reviled, and arguing that they are pretty much undermines any credibility this kind of objection has.
posted by cortex (staff) at 5:53 PM on January 26, 2008 [1 favorite]
And yet, claiming it is not funny (and therefore somehow suspect) is similarly invalid, and other one-link posts of similar comedic quality (insofar as we can make a comparison, given the subjectivity you're hanging your position on) have also been well-received and allowed to stand.
This really is a matter of selective memory. Stupid/silly posts are a bit of a crapshoot—sometimes they're badly received, sometimes they're lauded, sometimes it's a mixture of both—but they are certainly not universally reviled, and arguing that they are pretty much undermines any credibility this kind of objection has.
posted by cortex (staff) at 5:53 PM on January 26, 2008 [1 favorite]
Is this how the Metafilter Civil War starts? If so, I'm with Captain Amerithowie.
posted by vrakatar at 5:54 PM on January 26, 2008
posted by vrakatar at 5:54 PM on January 26, 2008
"Why don't you fuck off to somewhere where you aren't so butthurt?"
I gather this is directed at me, which tells me that my points are totally on mark. Glad to see that you agree with me, but are unable to admit it, instead opting for insults. You know what I'm saying is true, otherwise it wouldn't piss you off.
posted by Henry C. Mabuse at 5:54 PM on January 26, 2008
I gather this is directed at me, which tells me that my points are totally on mark. Glad to see that you agree with me, but are unable to admit it, instead opting for insults. You know what I'm saying is true, otherwise it wouldn't piss you off.
posted by Henry C. Mabuse at 5:54 PM on January 26, 2008
Right.
posted by puke & cry at 5:55 PM on January 26, 2008
posted by puke & cry at 5:55 PM on January 26, 2008
I am male, my undies are currently in a bunch (but not because of this callout) and let me point out that it's even MORE painful when you have that male equipment down there.
The premise of the linked video was indeed Comedy Gold, but the execution was kind of disappointing for me. So, Comedy Bronze at best.
Still, maybe Matt should GHOFB. I just read that WordPress Matt just paid big $ to acquire ma.tt as a domain for his blog, and the Irish Internet Registry has "mathow.ie" available. Just a suggestion.
posted by wendell at 5:55 PM on January 26, 2008 [1 favorite]
The premise of the linked video was indeed Comedy Gold, but the execution was kind of disappointing for me. So, Comedy Bronze at best.
Still, maybe Matt should GHOFB. I just read that WordPress Matt just paid big $ to acquire ma.tt as a domain for his blog, and the Irish Internet Registry has "mathow.ie" available. Just a suggestion.
posted by wendell at 5:55 PM on January 26, 2008 [1 favorite]
I would hope this comment is sarcasm as it is exactly the kind of submissive brown-nosing that should cause the gorge to rise.
I smell a troll. At least that's what matthowie told me to say.
posted by KokuRyu at 5:56 PM on January 26, 2008 [1 favorite]
I smell a troll. At least that's what matthowie told me to say.
posted by KokuRyu at 5:56 PM on January 26, 2008 [1 favorite]
everyone fell over themselves to praise in a servile manner
Or they thought it was funny. Also, 'everyone'? There's more than a few undeleted comments in the thread that are critical.
Me, I preferred FPP wherein showtunes were added to nature footage, but damned if I can find it.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 5:57 PM on January 26, 2008
Or they thought it was funny. Also, 'everyone'? There's more than a few undeleted comments in the thread that are critical.
Me, I preferred FPP wherein showtunes were added to nature footage, but damned if I can find it.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 5:57 PM on January 26, 2008
As a wise man said (repeatedly): 'it's good to be the king!'
posted by jonmc at 5:57 PM on January 26, 2008
posted by jonmc at 5:57 PM on January 26, 2008
I wonder if anyone is going to disable their own accounts over this thread...
posted by MaryDellamorte at 5:57 PM on January 26, 2008
posted by MaryDellamorte at 5:57 PM on January 26, 2008
It is only full of people saying it was funny because matt posted it.
Weird, I don't see anyone in there saying "HaHa! This is funny because it was posted by Matt! The funniness of this is greatly enhanced by him having been the one who posted it!"
Unless you mean it all meta-like... in that it it hadn't been posted, they couldn't be commenting on it. That'd be deep. Three beatnik fingersnaps for you.
posted by CKmtl at 5:58 PM on January 26, 2008 [1 favorite]
Weird, I don't see anyone in there saying "HaHa! This is funny because it was posted by Matt! The funniness of this is greatly enhanced by him having been the one who posted it!"
Unless you mean it all meta-like... in that it it hadn't been posted, they couldn't be commenting on it. That'd be deep. Three beatnik fingersnaps for you.
posted by CKmtl at 5:58 PM on January 26, 2008 [1 favorite]
Fine, let's have Matt take a week off and see how you feel about it then
posted by danb at 6:00 PM on January 26, 2008
posted by danb at 6:00 PM on January 26, 2008
"claiming it is not funny (and therefore somehow suspect) is similarly invalid.."
Actually I'm not claiming it is unfunny at all. I found it vaguely amusing, but personally I wouldn't have posted it on its own. It's one-note. The production quality is good, elevating it above suck. But humor is subjective, as I said.
I'm not arguing it is not funny. I'm talking about the hypocrisy and servile yelping from the pack of fawning dogs apparently trying to ingratiate themselves in an obscenely puke-inducing display, either consciously or unconsciously, highlighting some of the ugliest tendencies of this place.
That's all I've got to say about it. You know what I'm saying is true.
posted by Henry C. Mabuse at 6:01 PM on January 26, 2008
Actually I'm not claiming it is unfunny at all. I found it vaguely amusing, but personally I wouldn't have posted it on its own. It's one-note. The production quality is good, elevating it above suck. But humor is subjective, as I said.
I'm not arguing it is not funny. I'm talking about the hypocrisy and servile yelping from the pack of fawning dogs apparently trying to ingratiate themselves in an obscenely puke-inducing display, either consciously or unconsciously, highlighting some of the ugliest tendencies of this place.
That's all I've got to say about it. You know what I'm saying is true.
posted by Henry C. Mabuse at 6:01 PM on January 26, 2008
Damn, Henry C. Mabuse is crying now. Sorry dude, here, I have a cookie for you. That will make you feel better.
posted by puke & cry at 6:01 PM on January 26, 2008
posted by puke & cry at 6:01 PM on January 26, 2008
Matt has a history of posting these (think the redneck who drove his pickup into a tree) yet, you know, Matt has such a great sense of comedy, even when they are just silly jackass I still laugh, and I bet most other people do too. Also, it's his site so he gets some extra leeway to post a few silly things. (I haven't seen the video by the way - I am listening to the last metafilter podcast and am not pulling the plug on that to listen to a bunch of f bombs.)
posted by caddis at 6:01 PM on January 26, 2008
posted by caddis at 6:01 PM on January 26, 2008
The Henry C. Mabuse of my mind has a Destro voice.
posted by Bookhouse at 6:01 PM on January 26, 2008 [3 favorites]
posted by Bookhouse at 6:01 PM on January 26, 2008 [3 favorites]
*cookie*
posted by puke & cry at 6:01 PM on January 26, 2008
posted by puke & cry at 6:01 PM on January 26, 2008
I clicked it. Watched it. Thought "eh." And was ready to move on. Without flagging. Then I saw who posted it, and left my comment. Had it not been Matt, I would have left no comment. But he was just begging for someone to parrot his tags in the comments. Begging for it I tell ya.
posted by The Deej at 6:02 PM on January 26, 2008
posted by The Deej at 6:02 PM on January 26, 2008
Metafilter: An obscenely puke-inducing display
posted by MaryDellamorte at 6:03 PM on January 26, 2008
posted by MaryDellamorte at 6:03 PM on January 26, 2008
I wish I had a dog in this fight. But why would anyone have a dog in this fight? Maybe I can have a lemur? They're cute. Or maybe I could be the lemur.
What's the matter with a pack of fawning dogs? Do you tell those dogs, "stop fawning, I can't stand it?" If you are not one of those fawning dogs you stand stoically and say to yourself, "I am not a fawning dog." Otherwise, you sound like you want to be a doggy too. And aren't the little doggies cute! Look at them! They bounce and prance and hang out their tongues. Who's a cute little boo boo? Who's a boo boo?
posted by Mister Cheese at 6:04 PM on January 26, 2008 [2 favorites]
What's the matter with a pack of fawning dogs? Do you tell those dogs, "stop fawning, I can't stand it?" If you are not one of those fawning dogs you stand stoically and say to yourself, "I am not a fawning dog." Otherwise, you sound like you want to be a doggy too. And aren't the little doggies cute! Look at them! They bounce and prance and hang out their tongues. Who's a cute little boo boo? Who's a boo boo?
posted by Mister Cheese at 6:04 PM on January 26, 2008 [2 favorites]
everyone fell over themselves to praise in a servile manner
Is anyone else getting images of hordes of pale faced people, alternately rail thin and obese, in hooded attire, chanting "Maaaaattt", while looking up at the main pyramid where cortex, clad in clean white robes, struggles in vain upon the sacrificial altar as Jessamyn, in a pope like hat the color of #006699, brings forth a hammer of the finest gold to Our Dork Lord?
Anyone?
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 6:05 PM on January 26, 2008 [3 favorites]
Is anyone else getting images of hordes of pale faced people, alternately rail thin and obese, in hooded attire, chanting "Maaaaattt", while looking up at the main pyramid where cortex, clad in clean white robes, struggles in vain upon the sacrificial altar as Jessamyn, in a pope like hat the color of #006699, brings forth a hammer of the finest gold to Our Dork Lord?
Anyone?
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 6:05 PM on January 26, 2008 [3 favorites]
"Weird, I don't see anyone in there saying "HaHa! This is funny because it was posted by Matt! The funniness of this is greatly enhanced by him having been the one who posted it!""
I am compelled to continue commenting to say that this statement is staggeringly dumb. A first grade student could tell I was inferring motive based on other threads, compared to this one and authorship. Please don't be so deliberately obtuse. It's another example of trying to defend the subject when my argument is thoroughly sound.
I may well be completely wrong in my interpretation, but the argument itself has weight.
posted by Henry C. Mabuse at 6:05 PM on January 26, 2008 [1 favorite]
I am compelled to continue commenting to say that this statement is staggeringly dumb. A first grade student could tell I was inferring motive based on other threads, compared to this one and authorship. Please don't be so deliberately obtuse. It's another example of trying to defend the subject when my argument is thoroughly sound.
I may well be completely wrong in my interpretation, but the argument itself has weight.
posted by Henry C. Mabuse at 6:05 PM on January 26, 2008 [1 favorite]
Actually I'm not claiming it is unfunny at all. I found it vaguely amusing, but personally I wouldn't have posted it on its own. It's one-note. The production quality is good, elevating it above suck. But humor is subjective, as I said.
So you acknowledge that people could reasonably expect it to be funny, but you object to the idea that people could be responding positively to it for reasons other than fawning? And you've cross-referenced the positive comments in that thread with consistently negative comments from the same users in other materially similar threads, to eliminate the reasonable possibility that thread commentary is self-selecting among the thousands of members who comment on the site on a regular basis?
Your arguments don't support your conclusion any better than they support the negation of your conclusion. I don't know why this is the axe you feel like grinding, but it's not making a hell of a lot of sense and it seems an awful lot like you're just trying to pick a fight.
posted by cortex (staff) at 6:07 PM on January 26, 2008 [1 favorite]
So you acknowledge that people could reasonably expect it to be funny, but you object to the idea that people could be responding positively to it for reasons other than fawning? And you've cross-referenced the positive comments in that thread with consistently negative comments from the same users in other materially similar threads, to eliminate the reasonable possibility that thread commentary is self-selecting among the thousands of members who comment on the site on a regular basis?
Your arguments don't support your conclusion any better than they support the negation of your conclusion. I don't know why this is the axe you feel like grinding, but it's not making a hell of a lot of sense and it seems an awful lot like you're just trying to pick a fight.
posted by cortex (staff) at 6:07 PM on January 26, 2008 [1 favorite]
They are fawning and pissing on themselves like lowly dogs.
...loudly decried by the baying masses...
...servile yelping from the pack of fawning dogs...
Can't we be cows or something?
posted by nursegracer at 6:07 PM on January 26, 2008 [1 favorite]
...loudly decried by the baying masses...
...servile yelping from the pack of fawning dogs...
Can't we be cows or something?
posted by nursegracer at 6:07 PM on January 26, 2008 [1 favorite]
My voice is a classic ring-modulated Dalek tone, with a slight touch of Small-Stone electroharmonix phasing. Stage English.
posted by Henry C. Mabuse at 6:07 PM on January 26, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by Henry C. Mabuse at 6:07 PM on January 26, 2008 [1 favorite]
(man, nobody tell Henry about jessamyn's erotic chicken post. we'll be here all night)
posted by maryh at 6:08 PM on January 26, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by maryh at 6:08 PM on January 26, 2008 [1 favorite]
What's the matter with a pack of fawning dogs?
I think the dogs should leave fawning to the fawns. and ducking to the ducks. and goosing to the geese.
posted by jonmc at 6:08 PM on January 26, 2008
I think the dogs should leave fawning to the fawns. and ducking to the ducks. and goosing to the geese.
posted by jonmc at 6:08 PM on January 26, 2008
- Thanks for the perfect example of cliquey, holier than thou masturbation that makes Metafilter often so turgid and unpleasant.
Let me give you another example, and I don't think it's ever been this heartfelt:
"Christ, what an asshole."
But really, you do realize that you're just another troll, right? As soon as people get tired of verbally abusing you you'll be left with nothing more than a the sense that you've done Right And Good by shaking those poor Naive Sheep out of their Complacent Lives. You will have Shown Them. Shown Them All. Those SHEEPLE blindly following their DEAR LEADER MATHOWIE. They won't SNEER at you again, BY GOD! Becasue you WILL HAVE SHOWN THEM. THEY WON'T LAUGH NOW THAT YOU'VE USED BIG WORDS! YOU'VE TAUGHT THEM A *LESSON*. MUAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
posted by tkolar at 6:09 PM on January 26, 2008 [4 favorites]
I think the dogs should leave fawning to the fawns. and ducking to the ducks. and goosing to the geese.
Wait, wait, wait, waaait... Is that where the word fawning comes from? Fawns? Dude!
posted by Mister Cheese at 6:11 PM on January 26, 2008
Wait, wait, wait, waaait... Is that where the word fawning comes from? Fawns? Dude!
posted by Mister Cheese at 6:11 PM on January 26, 2008
That's all I've got to say about it. You know what I'm saying is true.
I know what you're saying is pretentious, but maybe I just have a stick up my butt. Seems to be going around.
posted by pupdog at 6:12 PM on January 26, 2008
I know what you're saying is pretentious, but maybe I just have a stick up my butt. Seems to be going around.
posted by pupdog at 6:12 PM on January 26, 2008
All I know is that I have nothing on dvd to watch tonight, so I am hoping someone flamesout over this. Fingers crossed.
posted by Razzle Bathbone at 6:14 PM on January 26, 2008
posted by Razzle Bathbone at 6:14 PM on January 26, 2008
posted by loquacious at 6:14 PM on January 26, 2008 [1 favorite]
What's the matter with a pack of fawning dogs? Do you tell those dogs, "stop fawning, I can't stand it?" If you are not one of those fawning dogs you stand stoically and say to yourself, "I am not a fawning dog." Otherwise, you sound like you want to be a doggy too. And aren't the little doggies cute! Look at them! They bounce and prance and hang out their tongues. Who's a cute little boo boo? Who's a boo boo?
posted by Mister Cheese
Yeah, but who's the Alpha Dog here? I agree with everything Henry C is saying.
posted by wafaa at 6:14 PM on January 26, 2008
posted by Mister Cheese
Yeah, but who's the Alpha Dog here? I agree with everything Henry C is saying.
posted by wafaa at 6:14 PM on January 26, 2008
Who even looks at who posted stuff?
(Except that whenever someone post something about India, I check whether it's hadjiboy. Because it always is.)
posted by smackfu at 6:16 PM on January 26, 2008 [4 favorites]
(Except that whenever someone post something about India, I check whether it's hadjiboy. Because it always is.)
posted by smackfu at 6:16 PM on January 26, 2008 [4 favorites]
Wow. Henry C. Mabuse is certainly full of himself. Maybe he should get his own blog? Write a few short stories, post a few recipes. You know, fun stuff. I'd definitely check it out.
That is, if I can ever break myself away from the cabal.
posted by purephase at 6:16 PM on January 26, 2008
That is, if I can ever break myself away from the cabal.
posted by purephase at 6:16 PM on January 26, 2008
I'm talking about the hypocrisy and servile yelping from the pack of fawning dogs apparently trying to ingratiate themselves
I think you're sort of projecting;just because folks professed to enjoy a post you deem subpar, they must be a batch of spineless mushheaded bootlicks, desperate to prove their allegiance? By that logic, folks could dismiss you as a posturing shit stirrer who's just trying to make his name as the oppugnant du jour. I have no doubt that you're sincere in your criticism of the post, but I do think you're stretching in ascribing the motivations of anyone who disagrees with you.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 6:16 PM on January 26, 2008 [2 favorites]
I think you're sort of projecting;just because folks professed to enjoy a post you deem subpar, they must be a batch of spineless mushheaded bootlicks, desperate to prove their allegiance? By that logic, folks could dismiss you as a posturing shit stirrer who's just trying to make his name as the oppugnant du jour. I have no doubt that you're sincere in your criticism of the post, but I do think you're stretching in ascribing the motivations of anyone who disagrees with you.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 6:16 PM on January 26, 2008 [2 favorites]
And WTF is the deal with people posting to MetaTalk and then running away? Like they care just enough to bitch in public, but not enough to actually defend their thoughts. I predict alcohol was involved, like all Saturday night callouts.
posted by smackfu at 6:18 PM on January 26, 2008
posted by smackfu at 6:18 PM on January 26, 2008
It's Saturday night, there hasn't been a MeTa thread all day, Henry is a self-proclaimed "internet performance artist," and you are all being played like a fiddle.
posted by brain_drain at 6:19 PM on January 26, 2008
posted by brain_drain at 6:19 PM on January 26, 2008
I predict alcohol was involved, like all Saturday night callouts.
you take that back!!
*throws bottle at wall*
posted by jonmc at 6:20 PM on January 26, 2008
you take that back!!
*throws bottle at wall*
posted by jonmc at 6:20 PM on January 26, 2008
Not sure what to say about Doohickie, though.
posted by brain_drain at 6:21 PM on January 26, 2008
posted by brain_drain at 6:21 PM on January 26, 2008
Doohickie MeFi mailed me to say he was being sarcastic when he made this post.
I took it seriously because 10% of the comments on the post were saying it wasn't funny, so I took his words at face value. Also, y'know, it's text and sarcasm doesn't always come across.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 6:22 PM on January 26, 2008
I took it seriously because 10% of the comments on the post were saying it wasn't funny, so I took his words at face value. Also, y'know, it's text and sarcasm doesn't always come across.
posted by mathowie (staff) at 6:22 PM on January 26, 2008
See? See what U-tube links have done to our site?
I HOPE YOU'RE ALL FUCKING HAPPY.
posted by mr_crash_davis at 6:23 PM on January 26, 2008
I HOPE YOU'RE ALL FUCKING HAPPY.
posted by mr_crash_davis at 6:23 PM on January 26, 2008
Fake Metatalk post? That's a paddlin'.
posted by smackfu at 6:24 PM on January 26, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by smackfu at 6:24 PM on January 26, 2008 [1 favorite]
Can we close this now?
But what if I want to write new troll poetry?
posted by tkolar at 6:24 PM on January 26, 2008
But what if I want to write new troll poetry?
posted by tkolar at 6:24 PM on January 26, 2008
Shit! Shit! Shit! I have no opinion on this whatsoever.
But I love you all very much and want you to be kind to one another.
posted by Abiezer at 6:24 PM on January 26, 2008
But I love you all very much and want you to be kind to one another.
posted by Abiezer at 6:24 PM on January 26, 2008
I HOPE YOU'RE ALL FUCKING HAPPY.
No, I'm fucking Doc. I used to fuck Sneezy, but he gave me something, the little sawed-off slut.
posted by jonmc at 6:25 PM on January 26, 2008 [3 favorites]
No, I'm fucking Doc. I used to fuck Sneezy, but he gave me something, the little sawed-off slut.
posted by jonmc at 6:25 PM on January 26, 2008 [3 favorites]
Actually, I'm not even working up a sweat here, I am not upset at all. But it certainly is funny to see many of you jump and dance to have a go at me just for presenting an opinion.
I mean, it goes to show how much emotionally you've invested in the site when you do that, and several people here are accusing me of getting my knickers in a twist! The ad hominems and non sequiturs fly, to the point where people start pointing out my own metaphor, as if I didn't mean to make it.
Is my point valid or not?
Under normal circumstances, the post would have been shit-upon and deleted - most likely. Because it's from matt, it appears to get a free pass. It doesn't surprise me, I just wanted to point it out. Now I have, and it has clearly made people very uncomfortable to the point where they attack me personally. Is that not an interesting phenomenon?
C'est la Blue
posted by Henry C. Mabuse at 6:27 PM on January 26, 2008 [3 favorites]
I mean, it goes to show how much emotionally you've invested in the site when you do that, and several people here are accusing me of getting my knickers in a twist! The ad hominems and non sequiturs fly, to the point where people start pointing out my own metaphor, as if I didn't mean to make it.
Is my point valid or not?
Under normal circumstances, the post would have been shit-upon and deleted - most likely. Because it's from matt, it appears to get a free pass. It doesn't surprise me, I just wanted to point it out. Now I have, and it has clearly made people very uncomfortable to the point where they attack me personally. Is that not an interesting phenomenon?
C'est la Blue
posted by Henry C. Mabuse at 6:27 PM on January 26, 2008 [3 favorites]
I can't possibly take any call-out seriously that doesn't include a threat to, at the very least, cut off a limb if the post isn't taken down. If you are going to do this, do it in style, Henry!
posted by misha at 6:27 PM on January 26, 2008
posted by misha at 6:27 PM on January 26, 2008
"Humor is subjective. Claiming it is funny is not a valid argument, as humor is subjective, and other one-link posts of similar comedic quality have been deleted."
SO MUCH WRONG. That humor is subjective does not mean that there are not consensuses or that all humor is therefore equal, or even that the default is deletion for funny things. Further, if your argument is that humor is subjective to the extent that claims of quality can't be predicated upon it, you cannot say that posts of similar quality have been deleted.
"Thanks for the perfect example of cliquey, holier than thou masturbation that makes Metafilter often so turgid and unpleasant."
If you're so special, why aren't you dead?
posted by klangklangston at 6:28 PM on January 26, 2008
SO MUCH WRONG. That humor is subjective does not mean that there are not consensuses or that all humor is therefore equal, or even that the default is deletion for funny things. Further, if your argument is that humor is subjective to the extent that claims of quality can't be predicated upon it, you cannot say that posts of similar quality have been deleted.
"Thanks for the perfect example of cliquey, holier than thou masturbation that makes Metafilter often so turgid and unpleasant."
If you're so special, why aren't you dead?
posted by klangklangston at 6:28 PM on January 26, 2008
A first grade student could tell I was inferring motive based on other threads, compared to this one and authorship.
And anyone with a decent college education could tell that such an inference is really going out on a slim and unsteady branch. You don't have special access to the motivations behind others' claims that the video was funny.
The only way you could realistically conclude that all those who say it's funny are doing so as sycophants would be to have that same video posted at another time by another person, with the same users commenting in it. If in that case they boo and hiss, then you'd have reasonable proof of nauseating ass-kissing.
but the argument itself has weight
Not really, in my book.
posted by CKmtl at 6:28 PM on January 26, 2008
And anyone with a decent college education could tell that such an inference is really going out on a slim and unsteady branch. You don't have special access to the motivations behind others' claims that the video was funny.
The only way you could realistically conclude that all those who say it's funny are doing so as sycophants would be to have that same video posted at another time by another person, with the same users commenting in it. If in that case they boo and hiss, then you'd have reasonable proof of nauseating ass-kissing.
but the argument itself has weight
Not really, in my book.
posted by CKmtl at 6:28 PM on January 26, 2008
The ad hominems and non sequiturs fly
I detect a Latin flavor in the air.
*makes salsa, dances tango, dons sombrero*
posted by jonmc at 6:28 PM on January 26, 2008
I detect a Latin flavor in the air.
*makes salsa, dances tango, dons sombrero*
posted by jonmc at 6:28 PM on January 26, 2008
"It's Saturday night, there hasn't been a MeTa thread all day, Henry is a self-proclaimed "internet performance artist," and you are all being played like a fiddle."
Shit. Rumbled. It's a fair cop, but society is to blame.
posted by Henry C. Mabuse at 6:28 PM on January 26, 2008
Shit. Rumbled. It's a fair cop, but society is to blame.
posted by Henry C. Mabuse at 6:28 PM on January 26, 2008
and you are all being played like a fiddle.
Uh huh. Would everyone who wasn't verbally abusing Henry for the pure unadulterated joy of it please raise your hand?
posted by tkolar at 6:29 PM on January 26, 2008
Uh huh. Would everyone who wasn't verbally abusing Henry for the pure unadulterated joy of it please raise your hand?
posted by tkolar at 6:29 PM on January 26, 2008
Since Matt's been surfacing less and less on Metafilter since the Dynamic Duo took over more of the front-end, day-to-day tasks, any additions - no matter how lame - from him are welcome.
posted by Dave Faris at 6:30 PM on January 26, 2008
posted by Dave Faris at 6:30 PM on January 26, 2008
I Accuse My Parents!
posted by The Deej at 6:31 PM on January 26, 2008 [1 favorite]
posted by The Deej at 6:31 PM on January 26, 2008 [1 favorite]
there is no cabal
posted by exlotuseater at 6:32 PM on January 26, 2008
posted by exlotuseater at 6:32 PM on January 26, 2008
"Actually, I'm not even working up a sweat here, I am not upset at all. But it certainly is funny to see many of you jump and dance to have a go at me just for presenting an opinion."
It's funny to see you jump and dance and attempt to have a go at us for presenting our opinion that you're a bit of a watered drink.
posted by klangklangston at 6:33 PM on January 26, 2008 [1 favorite]
It's funny to see you jump and dance and attempt to have a go at us for presenting our opinion that you're a bit of a watered drink.
posted by klangklangston at 6:33 PM on January 26, 2008 [1 favorite]
I watched it thought "meh" but as I hate comments that go "meh" I didn't post.
I certainly see that there is a possibilty that people will laugh at it I mean the Umbilical Brothers have made a career out of being "funny".
posted by meech at 6:33 PM on January 26, 2008
I certainly see that there is a possibilty that people will laugh at it I mean the Umbilical Brothers have made a career out of being "funny".
posted by meech at 6:33 PM on January 26, 2008
MEOW
posted by Henry C. Mabuse at 6:34 PM on January 26, 2008
posted by Henry C. Mabuse at 6:34 PM on January 26, 2008
Also, y'know, it's text and sarcasm doesn't always come across.
What did you call me?
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 6:34 PM on January 26, 2008
What did you call me?
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 6:34 PM on January 26, 2008
And I have to say that "Internet Performance Artist" is the lamest occupation I've seen since "Blog Consultant."
posted by klangklangston at 6:35 PM on January 26, 2008
posted by klangklangston at 6:35 PM on January 26, 2008
Pastel-suited jackals, anyone?
posted by jcterminal at 6:36 PM on January 26, 2008
posted by jcterminal at 6:36 PM on January 26, 2008
And I have to say that "Internet Performance Artist" is the lamest occupation I've seen since "Blog Consultant."
Maybe even 'Anus Bleacher.'
posted by jonmc at 6:36 PM on January 26, 2008
Maybe even 'Anus Bleacher.'
posted by jonmc at 6:36 PM on January 26, 2008
They dance and prance and loll about
Heads canted to one side,
They how and prowl
And yip
The dogs of the Metafilters like to skip
About on doggy pads
Making snark-ments
posted by Mister Cheese at 6:36 PM on January 26, 2008
Heads canted to one side,
They how and prowl
And yip
The dogs of the Metafilters like to skip
About on doggy pads
Making snark-ments
posted by Mister Cheese at 6:36 PM on January 26, 2008
What a lovely euphemism. I'm going to work it into my next troll-base dramatic endeavor.
posted by tkolar at 6:37 PM on January 26, 2008
posted by tkolar at 6:37 PM on January 26, 2008
"Maybe even 'Anus Bleacher.'"
At least that'd seem to have a craft to it.
posted by klangklangston at 6:39 PM on January 26, 2008
At least that'd seem to have a craft to it.
posted by klangklangston at 6:39 PM on January 26, 2008
Hey Jon, you ever listen to those Left Wing Fascists tracks that I put up?
posted by klangklangston at 6:40 PM on January 26, 2008
posted by klangklangston at 6:40 PM on January 26, 2008
MEOW
you better have permission from fluffy to say that
posted by pyramid termite at 6:40 PM on January 26, 2008
you better have permission from fluffy to say that
posted by pyramid termite at 6:40 PM on January 26, 2008
I smell a troll.
Eh, at least he admitted it. Now he can get help.
This thread has been a blast! A++++ WOULD BROWNNOSE AGAIN!!!
posted by languagehat at 6:40 PM on January 26, 2008 [2 favorites]
Eh, at least he admitted it. Now he can get help.
This thread has been a blast! A++++ WOULD BROWNNOSE AGAIN!!!
posted by languagehat at 6:40 PM on January 26, 2008 [2 favorites]
Hey Jon, you ever listen to those Left Wing Fascists tracks that I put up?
I DL'd it. The Missus is asleep in the next room so I'll probably listen to it tommorow morning.
posted by jonmc at 6:44 PM on January 26, 2008
I DL'd it. The Missus is asleep in the next room so I'll probably listen to it tommorow morning.
posted by jonmc at 6:44 PM on January 26, 2008
Under normal circumstances, the post would have been shit-upon and deleted - most likely.
Nope, not even that far, and asserting it repeatedly doesn't make it so.
Matt's heard from Doohickie, who was kidding and clearly wasn't trying to start this kind of shitheap. Henry, find something else to do with your evening; bizarre axe-grinding is bad enough, but admitted bored-at-home dramarama bullshit is worse yet.
posted by cortex (staff) at 6:45 PM on January 26, 2008
Nope, not even that far, and asserting it repeatedly doesn't make it so.
Matt's heard from Doohickie, who was kidding and clearly wasn't trying to start this kind of shitheap. Henry, find something else to do with your evening; bizarre axe-grinding is bad enough, but admitted bored-at-home dramarama bullshit is worse yet.
posted by cortex (staff) at 6:45 PM on January 26, 2008
This thread is closed to new comments.
posted by Doohickie at 4:45 PM on January 26, 2008