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Athanasius Kircher has joined metafilter (hooray!). But wait...He is not here to enlighten us, but rather to demand that jonson give them credit for his Blue Fugate post.
Yeah, that kind of creeps me out.
Watch out, jonson, or they'll ... something.
posted by mr_crash_davis at 9:59 AM on July 11, 2006
Watch out, jonson, or they'll ... something.
posted by mr_crash_davis at 9:59 AM on July 11, 2006
I was into these dudes way before any of you poseurs ever heard of 'em.
posted by hydrophonic at 10:00 AM on July 11, 2006
posted by hydrophonic at 10:00 AM on July 11, 2006
If Kircher were paying attention, he might have noticed that jonson's post included an entirely different link to what was, coincidentally, the same article. What's the matter, not selling enough ad impressions?
posted by monju_bosatsu at 10:02 AM on July 11, 2006
posted by monju_bosatsu at 10:02 AM on July 11, 2006
from the faq:
Is it necessary or mandatory to add a [via] link if you found it from another site?
No. Many people do this as a courtesy, but it is in no way mandatory
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 10:08 AM on July 11, 2006
Is it necessary or mandatory to add a [via] link if you found it from another site?
No. Many people do this as a courtesy, but it is in no way mandatory
posted by jessamyn (staff) at 10:08 AM on July 11, 2006
This isn't even a via! This is "You're discussing something that we've discussed in the past. Please give us credit for liking it before it was popular." Kircher, are you wearing pants? Should I give you credit since I'm also wearing pants?
posted by Plutor at 10:12 AM on July 11, 2006
posted by Plutor at 10:12 AM on July 11, 2006
Unless that comment is teeming with irony, I say: Laaaaaaaaame.
posted by Gator at 10:16 AM on July 11, 2006
posted by Gator at 10:16 AM on July 11, 2006
but rather to demand that jonson give them credit for his Blue Fugate post.
I wouldn't call that 'demanding'. But still, I'm embarrassed for him. Ugh.
posted by iconomy at 10:20 AM on July 11, 2006
I wouldn't call that 'demanding'. But still, I'm embarrassed for him. Ugh.
posted by iconomy at 10:20 AM on July 11, 2006
Yeah, bloggers who go around demanding 'credit' for stuff are stupid. I don't put vias on links generally, because I don't want to encourage fools who think that links somehow belong to them.
posted by reklaw at 10:26 AM on July 11, 2006
posted by reklaw at 10:26 AM on July 11, 2006
What's an "Athanasius Kircher"?
I think this is like that MeTa thread asking whether any famous people were members of MetaFilter and a bunch of people interpreted "famous people" to mean "random bloggers."
posted by cribcage at 10:30 AM on July 11, 2006
I think this is like that MeTa thread asking whether any famous people were members of MetaFilter and a bunch of people interpreted "famous people" to mean "random bloggers."
posted by cribcage at 10:30 AM on July 11, 2006
What's an "Athanasius Kircher"?
Isn't he married to Demi Moore?
posted by Faint of Butt at 10:31 AM on July 11, 2006
Isn't he married to Demi Moore?
posted by Faint of Butt at 10:31 AM on July 11, 2006
Hopefully I'm not the only person who never heard of Athanasius Kircher or his site before today.
posted by iconomy at 10:33 AM on July 11, 2006
posted by iconomy at 10:33 AM on July 11, 2006
Dear Smurf,
Without smurfing the possibility of smurf, we smurfed that this smurf had its smurfs in our Smurfings two smurfs earlier, in which case we smurf only that we smurf some smurf or smurf for smurfing to the Smurfs.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 10:38 AM on July 11, 2006 [2 favorites]
Without smurfing the possibility of smurf, we smurfed that this smurf had its smurfs in our Smurfings two smurfs earlier, in which case we smurf only that we smurf some smurf or smurf for smurfing to the Smurfs.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 10:38 AM on July 11, 2006 [2 favorites]
Would I have to be a theologian in order to understand this callout?
posted by boo_radley at 10:45 AM on July 11, 2006
posted by boo_radley at 10:45 AM on July 11, 2006
What I meant was, I've never heard of this Athanasius Kircher or his site kirchersociety.org.
posted by iconomy at 10:54 AM on July 11, 2006
posted by iconomy at 10:54 AM on July 11, 2006
then where did he get the $5 to join mefi?
posted by crunchland at 10:58 AM on July 11, 2006
posted by crunchland at 10:58 AM on July 11, 2006
Out of the blue.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 11:00 AM on July 11, 2006
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 11:00 AM on July 11, 2006
Smurf off, IRFH. Smurf you very smurfing much.
posted by loquacious at 11:04 AM on July 11, 2006
posted by loquacious at 11:04 AM on July 11, 2006
Never heard of this Athanasius Kircher before now, although I've known about the Blue Fugates for a few years now. It's pretty laughable for some blogger to come over here and demand credit for stuff like this.
posted by puke & cry at 11:08 AM on July 11, 2006
posted by puke & cry at 11:08 AM on July 11, 2006
Looking at his profile page, I'm reminded of how close we are to User #40,000 coming along. (I know, I know, it's kind of meaningless since we all know that not everyone follows through with their five bucks, plus the sockpuppet thing, but still.)
posted by Gator at 11:11 AM on July 11, 2006
posted by Gator at 11:11 AM on July 11, 2006
Didn't her used to have those late night rock concerts on T.V in the mid/late 70s?
I got nothin'
posted by KevinSkomsvold at 11:13 AM on July 11, 2006
I got nothin'
posted by KevinSkomsvold at 11:13 AM on July 11, 2006
I'd say that kircher's inexplicable behavior means that the Society just lost itself a reader, but I already took it out of my bookmarks a month or so ago.
Mebbe spend a little more time working on your content and less on... whatever the hell this is.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 11:22 AM on July 11, 2006
Mebbe spend a little more time working on your content and less on... whatever the hell this is.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 11:22 AM on July 11, 2006
This is old news Kircher. Stop your whining.
*goes looking for some stuff to poach without attribution off of Kircher's site
(the mefi censors removed this very same comment from the thread, sheesh that is annoying)
posted by caddis at 11:23 AM on July 11, 2006
*goes looking for some stuff to poach without attribution off of Kircher's site
(the mefi censors removed this very same comment from the thread, sheesh that is annoying)
posted by caddis at 11:23 AM on July 11, 2006
Wait, you're telling me the entire John Birch society pitched in for one account?
posted by cortex at 11:24 AM on July 11, 2006
posted by cortex at 11:24 AM on July 11, 2006
Yeah, that was a weird-ass comment.
I would also like to state, here and for the record, that although I am not a religious man I that God that IRFH is back and better than ever.
posted by OmieWise at 11:35 AM on July 11, 2006
I would also like to state, here and for the record, that although I am not a religious man I that God that IRFH is back and better than ever.
posted by OmieWise at 11:35 AM on July 11, 2006
The Kircher Society guy was just asking for a via. There's no "demand" here. It came across as a bit snotty and rude, I guess, but he's probably just adopting a kind of formal persona for quasi-humourous effect like he does in his blog.
Also, jonson was the first to make a snotty reply.
posted by painquale at 11:37 AM on July 11, 2006
Also, jonson was the first to make a snotty reply.
posted by painquale at 11:37 AM on July 11, 2006
I hope you're all sitting close to your screens, because the stakes have never been lower.
posted by George_Spiggott at 11:45 AM on July 11, 2006
posted by George_Spiggott at 11:45 AM on July 11, 2006
Oh man that's so cool that Ashton Kutcher posts on metafilter. Wait, what?
posted by driveler at 11:59 AM on July 11, 2006
posted by driveler at 11:59 AM on July 11, 2006
Wow. Thanks, OmieWise!
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 12:01 PM on July 11, 2006
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 12:01 PM on July 11, 2006
I guess my comment belongs here:
kircher writes "Without discounting the possibility of coincidence, we assumed that this posting had its origins in our Proceedings two days earlier, in which case we request only that we receive some credit or acknowledgement for having called your attention to the Blue Fugates. If the timing was mere coincidence and you discovered the Fugates independently, then our apologies for raising the issue."
ya, good luck with that.
posted by Mitheral at 12:46 PM on July 11, 2006
kircher writes "Without discounting the possibility of coincidence, we assumed that this posting had its origins in our Proceedings two days earlier, in which case we request only that we receive some credit or acknowledgement for having called your attention to the Blue Fugates. If the timing was mere coincidence and you discovered the Fugates independently, then our apologies for raising the issue."
ya, good luck with that.
posted by Mitheral at 12:46 PM on July 11, 2006
Oh man that's so cool that Ashton Kutcher posts on metafilter.
Wait, are we being punk'd?
posted by pardonyou? at 12:53 PM on July 11, 2006
Wait, are we being punk'd?
posted by pardonyou? at 12:53 PM on July 11, 2006
Dear Kircher,
Without discounting the possibility of coincidence, we assumed that this posting had its origins in our MetaFilter four years earlier, in which case we request only that we receive some credit or acknowledgement for having called your attention to the Blue Fugates. If the timing was mere coincidence and you discovered the Fugates independently, then our apologies for raising the issue.
posted by jack_mo at 1:21 PM on July 11, 2006
Without discounting the possibility of coincidence, we assumed that this posting had its origins in our MetaFilter four years earlier, in which case we request only that we receive some credit or acknowledgement for having called your attention to the Blue Fugates. If the timing was mere coincidence and you discovered the Fugates independently, then our apologies for raising the issue.
posted by jack_mo at 1:21 PM on July 11, 2006
Dear Kircher,
Without discounting the possibility of coincidence, we assumed that this posting had its origins in our MetaFilter four years earlier, in which case we request only that we receive some credit or acknowledgement for having called your attention to the Blue Fugates. If the timing was mere coincidence and you discovered the Fugates independently, then our apologies for raising the issue.
posted by jack_mo at 1:21 PM PST on July 11
Rack 'em.
posted by Optimus Chyme at 1:27 PM on July 11, 2006
Without discounting the possibility of coincidence, we assumed that this posting had its origins in our MetaFilter four years earlier, in which case we request only that we receive some credit or acknowledgement for having called your attention to the Blue Fugates. If the timing was mere coincidence and you discovered the Fugates independently, then our apologies for raising the issue.
posted by jack_mo at 1:21 PM PST on July 11
Rack 'em.
posted by Optimus Chyme at 1:27 PM on July 11, 2006
Houlle!
posted by Falconetti at 1:50 PM on July 11, 2006
posted by Falconetti at 1:50 PM on July 11, 2006
If he wanted a via, he should've emailed jonson. If he wanted to direct traffic to his blog he could have self-linked, there's no law against it in the comments. Posting as he did just seems passive agressive and petty. jonson earned the right to snark, IMO.
posted by maryh at 1:51 PM on July 11, 2006
posted by maryh at 1:51 PM on July 11, 2006
I apologize for the tone of my response, I just thought that a link with "we investigated this phenomenon" might yeild more than a one paragraph summary of the article.
posted by jonson at 1:58 PM on July 11, 2006
posted by jonson at 1:58 PM on July 11, 2006
Yeah, that kind of creeps me out.
Watch out, jonson, or they'll ...
Have to call security and ask you to leave!
/southpark
//also got nothin'
posted by Alexandros at 2:29 PM on July 11, 2006
Watch out, jonson, or they'll ...
Have to call security and ask you to leave!
/southpark
//also got nothin'
posted by Alexandros at 2:29 PM on July 11, 2006
A young society, apparently with much to learn about blog etiquette. Please accept our sincere apologies for raising the issue.
posted by kircher at 2:29 PM on July 11, 2006
posted by kircher at 2:29 PM on July 11, 2006
A young society, apparently with much to learn about blog etiquette. That's ok, you'll figure it out eventually. *pats kircher on the head*
posted by puke & cry at 2:35 PM on July 11, 2006
posted by puke & cry at 2:35 PM on July 11, 2006
Fair do's, kircher. I enjoy the Proceedings of your Society, so I hope you stick around and post here.
posted by jack_mo at 2:40 PM on July 11, 2006
posted by jack_mo at 2:40 PM on July 11, 2006
A tired, depressed old MeFite, apparently with no more drama to distract him. Please entertain us before we cut our freakin' hands off.
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 2:40 PM on July 11, 2006
posted by It's Raining Florence Henderson at 2:40 PM on July 11, 2006
I apologize for using the word "demand" which was an innacurate restatement of your request.
Also, I shamelessly admit to posting this partially to bring attention to the AK Society's awesome website, which I've been a fan of for some time.
posted by vacapinta at 2:41 PM on July 11, 2006
Also, I shamelessly admit to posting this partially to bring attention to the AK Society's awesome website, which I've been a fan of for some time.
posted by vacapinta at 2:41 PM on July 11, 2006
Talk about missed opportunities. We could have had a whole society flame out here.
posted by monju_bosatsu at 2:44 PM on July 11, 2006
posted by monju_bosatsu at 2:44 PM on July 11, 2006
BRING ME THE PANCAKE HEAD OF PANCAKEPANCAKE PANCAKE
posted by loquacious at 2:53 PM on July 11, 2006
posted by loquacious at 2:53 PM on July 11, 2006
I'm pleased about this happy ending! The AK Society is great and I didn't want to see it fall into disrepute. Nearly every entry would make an excellent FPP if posted on the blue.
posted by painquale at 3:50 PM on July 11, 2006
posted by painquale at 3:50 PM on July 11, 2006
Wow, I love the Kirchner site, it is one of my favorite new finds - which I think I learned about right here on Mefi in a prior via, but I forget who posted it. Great content, always interesting.
I also love jonson and his consistently amusing posts. What's a girl to do?
I am delighted that he/she/it made a sufficiently abject apology that the matter is resolved, the tar & feathers stored away for another day, and I can offer a heartfelt welcome our new member. Despite the awkward fumble at the onset - and who among us hasn't made an embarassing entry somewhere before? - I hope we can all live happily ever after.
posted by madamjujujive at 4:02 PM on July 11, 2006
I also love jonson and his consistently amusing posts. What's a girl to do?
I am delighted that he/she/it made a sufficiently abject apology that the matter is resolved, the tar & feathers stored away for another day, and I can offer a heartfelt welcome our new member. Despite the awkward fumble at the onset - and who among us hasn't made an embarassing entry somewhere before? - I hope we can all live happily ever after.
posted by madamjujujive at 4:02 PM on July 11, 2006
Fair do's, kircher. I enjoy the Proceedings of your Society, so I hope you stick around and post here.
posted by jack_mo An hour ago
Well, that goes without saying. It's a quality site. Nevertheless, the hazing in response to his initial arrogance must continue. It dies with this thread though.
posted by caddis at 4:30 PM on July 11, 2006
posted by jack_mo An hour ago
Well, that goes without saying. It's a quality site. Nevertheless, the hazing in response to his initial arrogance must continue. It dies with this thread though.
posted by caddis at 4:30 PM on July 11, 2006
Perhaps Athanasius Kircher will find MetaFilter as irresistible as It's Raining Florence Henderson does. Drumming on kettles and pots to celebrate the end of the dry spell.
posted by Cranberry at 4:45 PM on July 11, 2006
posted by Cranberry at 4:45 PM on July 11, 2006
Talk about missed opportunities. We could have had a whole society flame out here.
Indeed, and via the pluralis majestatis, surely an unprecedented event.
posted by IshmaelGraves at 6:14 PM on July 11, 2006
Indeed, and via the pluralis majestatis, surely an unprecedented event.
posted by IshmaelGraves at 6:14 PM on July 11, 2006
Hopefully I'm not the only person who never heard of Athanasius Kircher or his site before today.
Not only do I join you in this precondition, I will have forgotten even this mention of him/them/whatever by midday tomorrow.
What were we talking about?
posted by scarabic at 7:39 PM on July 11, 2006
Not only do I join you in this precondition, I will have forgotten even this mention of him/them/whatever by midday tomorrow.
What were we talking about?
posted by scarabic at 7:39 PM on July 11, 2006
I don't put vias on links generally, because I don't want to encourage fools who think that links somehow belong to them.
Is it ok to say that I think that the little bit of the above that makes any sense at all is really tacky? Offering something back to a site that turned you on to something cool is "encouraging fools who think that links somehow belong to them"?
Ooookay...
posted by mediareport at 9:31 PM on July 11, 2006
Is it ok to say that I think that the little bit of the above that makes any sense at all is really tacky? Offering something back to a site that turned you on to something cool is "encouraging fools who think that links somehow belong to them"?
Ooookay...
posted by mediareport at 9:31 PM on July 11, 2006
Or, in other words, please use 'via' as much as possible to help spread the word about cool sites. Thanks.
posted by mediareport at 9:32 PM on July 11, 2006
posted by mediareport at 9:32 PM on July 11, 2006
Except when it's via kottke, waxy, boingboing or digg. Those guys have enough traffic!
posted by jonson at 10:38 PM on July 11, 2006
posted by jonson at 10:38 PM on July 11, 2006
Don't bother posting a link at all if its on [a top-rated blog in a particular field of interest].
Honestly, anyone interested in technology is already going to be reading at least one of the top-rated tech sites. Anyone interested in politics is already reading one of the top-rated poliblog sites. And so on.
If a link on a [top-rated blog in its field] hasn't propagated to the other [top-rated blogs in same field] within a few days, then it's not yet a meme and might be considered for MeFi. It should be an odd or innovative meme, IMHO.
posted by five fresh fish at 12:05 AM on July 12, 2006
Honestly, anyone interested in technology is already going to be reading at least one of the top-rated tech sites. Anyone interested in politics is already reading one of the top-rated poliblog sites. And so on.
If a link on a [top-rated blog in its field] hasn't propagated to the other [top-rated blogs in same field] within a few days, then it's not yet a meme and might be considered for MeFi. It should be an odd or innovative meme, IMHO.
posted by five fresh fish at 12:05 AM on July 12, 2006
c/meme/idea | new fact discovery | concept | toy | news | whatever suits your fancy/
posted by five fresh fish at 12:06 AM on July 12, 2006
posted by five fresh fish at 12:06 AM on July 12, 2006
Talk about missed opportunities. We could have had a whole society flame out here.
Indeed, and via the pluralis majestatis, surely an unprecedented event.
We, Emperor of Austria, Apostolic King of Hungary, King of Bohemia, of Dalmatia, of Croatia, of Slavonia, of Galicia, of Lodomeria, and of Illyria, King of Jerusalem, Archduke of Austria, Grand Duke of Tuscany and of Krakau, Duke of Lorraine, of Salzburg, of Styria, of Carinthia, of Carniola and of the Bukovina, Grand Duke of Transylvania, Margrave of Moravia, Duke of Upper Silesia, of Lower Silesia, of Modena, Parma, Piacenza and Guastalla, of Auschwitz and Zator, of Teschen, Friuli, Ragusa and Zara, Princely Count of Habsburg and Tyrol, of Kyburg, Goritz and Grandisca, Prince of Trient and Brixen, Margrave of Upper and Lower Lusatia and in Istria, Count of Hohenems, Feldkirch, Bregenz, Sonnenberg, and so forth, Lord of Triest, of Cattaro and of the Wendish Mark, Grand Voyvode of the Voyvodie of Serbia, and so forth, Sovereign of the Order of the Golden Fleece, will burn you in your tank and have fire eat your stomach! We hereby cut off Our Imperial Right Hand, and may God blast you all!
posted by languagehat at 6:05 AM on July 12, 2006 [1 favorite]
Indeed, and via the pluralis majestatis, surely an unprecedented event.
We, Emperor of Austria, Apostolic King of Hungary, King of Bohemia, of Dalmatia, of Croatia, of Slavonia, of Galicia, of Lodomeria, and of Illyria, King of Jerusalem, Archduke of Austria, Grand Duke of Tuscany and of Krakau, Duke of Lorraine, of Salzburg, of Styria, of Carinthia, of Carniola and of the Bukovina, Grand Duke of Transylvania, Margrave of Moravia, Duke of Upper Silesia, of Lower Silesia, of Modena, Parma, Piacenza and Guastalla, of Auschwitz and Zator, of Teschen, Friuli, Ragusa and Zara, Princely Count of Habsburg and Tyrol, of Kyburg, Goritz and Grandisca, Prince of Trient and Brixen, Margrave of Upper and Lower Lusatia and in Istria, Count of Hohenems, Feldkirch, Bregenz, Sonnenberg, and so forth, Lord of Triest, of Cattaro and of the Wendish Mark, Grand Voyvode of the Voyvodie of Serbia, and so forth, Sovereign of the Order of the Golden Fleece, will burn you in your tank and have fire eat your stomach! We hereby cut off Our Imperial Right Hand, and may God blast you all!
posted by languagehat at 6:05 AM on July 12, 2006 [1 favorite]
Your abuse of the "royal we" will cause you to go blind. It's true. I overheard Charles cautioning Prince Andrew about this.
posted by horsewithnoname at 8:42 AM on July 12, 2006
posted by horsewithnoname at 8:42 AM on July 12, 2006
Perhaps Athanasius Kircher will find MetaFilter as irresistible as It's Raining Florence Henderson does. Drumming on kettles and pots to celebrate the end of the dry spell.
I bet Kircher makes at most 2 more comments here and then disappears.
posted by puke & cry at 10:53 AM on July 12, 2006
I bet Kircher makes at most 2 more comments here and then disappears.
posted by puke & cry at 10:53 AM on July 12, 2006
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