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Looks kinda cool, altough I think Dejah forgot to close one of his div tags.
posted by sebas at 7:01 AM on May 9, 2003
posted by sebas at 7:01 AM on May 9, 2003
sebas, that's no way to talk about a lady.
posted by languagehat at 8:14 AM on May 9, 2003
posted by languagehat at 8:14 AM on May 9, 2003
i love it when people add crazy stuff and personal details to their userpages. it helps make up for the mefites who frustrate me with no info, save their username.
here's an iframes tutorial if you want to put your weblog in your userpage.
posted by t r a c y at 8:40 AM on May 9, 2003
here's an iframes tutorial if you want to put your weblog in your userpage.
posted by t r a c y at 8:40 AM on May 9, 2003
Does stuff like this tax the server though? Just curious.
posted by Ufez Jones at 8:46 AM on May 9, 2003
posted by Ufez Jones at 8:46 AM on May 9, 2003
Nope. Anything in an iframe is being pulled from another server, so it won't affect the mefi server at all.
posted by ook at 8:49 AM on May 9, 2003
posted by ook at 8:49 AM on May 9, 2003
at what point does this get abused? if i iframe the stileproject will a tree fall in the woods?
posted by danOstuporStar at 9:00 AM on May 9, 2003
posted by danOstuporStar at 9:00 AM on May 9, 2003
That's a neat trick, and a nice little tutorial, t r a c y. Can someone tell me, though, if one of the points in the tutorial is in fact still applicable - that the iframes bit only works properly for IE browsers?
posted by yhbc at 9:42 AM on May 9, 2003
posted by yhbc at 9:42 AM on May 9, 2003
those two examples work ok on a fairly old (1.0) mozilla running on linux.
posted by andrew cooke at 9:46 AM on May 9, 2003
posted by andrew cooke at 9:46 AM on May 9, 2003
Iframes are for babies. Real web monkeys hack the page itself.
posted by timeistight at 9:56 AM on May 9, 2003
posted by timeistight at 9:56 AM on May 9, 2003
The above troll was a transparent bid for attention.
posted by timeistight at 9:59 AM on May 9, 2003
posted by timeistight at 9:59 AM on May 9, 2003
Looks kinda cool, although I think Dejah forgot to close one of his div tags.
*her tags*...just as an aside. ;) I don't think I've done anything to weird out the CSS...all I have in the comments box is:
[IFRAME SRC="http://spiderfarmer.livejournal.com" TITLE="SpiderFarmer's Journal" width="740" HEIGHT="400"]
I didn't add any formatting stuff. I did however, this morning change it from 800 wide to 740 wide...perhaps the width was throwing your browser off?
I've tested it in IE and Opera, and it seems to be working...let me know if it's fubar on a different browser.
As to the etiquette of using iframes, nobody ever mentioned to me that it was considered in bad form. If Matt says that he doesn't want it, then it shall be removed. :)
posted by dejah420 at 10:01 AM on May 9, 2003
*her tags*...just as an aside. ;) I don't think I've done anything to weird out the CSS...all I have in the comments box is:
[IFRAME SRC="http://spiderfarmer.livejournal.com" TITLE="SpiderFarmer's Journal" width="740" HEIGHT="400"]
I didn't add any formatting stuff. I did however, this morning change it from 800 wide to 740 wide...perhaps the width was throwing your browser off?
I've tested it in IE and Opera, and it seems to be working...let me know if it's fubar on a different browser.
As to the etiquette of using iframes, nobody ever mentioned to me that it was considered in bad form. If Matt says that he doesn't want it, then it shall be removed. :)
posted by dejah420 at 10:01 AM on May 9, 2003
I'm sorry Time, I wasn't paying attention...here ya go:
WHAT.
THE.
FUCK.
timeistight!
How dare you impune my obvious 733t haxoring skills! I R0X0R YPPOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11~~~~~~~
heh.
posted by dejah420 at 10:05 AM on May 9, 2003
WHAT.
THE.
FUCK.
timeistight!
How dare you impune my obvious 733t haxoring skills! I R0X0R YPPOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11~~~~~~~
heh.
posted by dejah420 at 10:05 AM on May 9, 2003
Okay, you win. 733t sp33k scares the hell out of me.
posted by timeistight at 10:16 AM on May 9, 2003
posted by timeistight at 10:16 AM on May 9, 2003
Does stuff like this tax the server though?
*q's mind boggles at the thought that there are respected, intelligent mefites who haven't a clue how the web works*
posted by quonsar at 10:16 AM on May 9, 2003
*q's mind boggles at the thought that there are respected, intelligent mefites who haven't a clue how the web works*
posted by quonsar at 10:16 AM on May 9, 2003
that the iframes bit only works properly for IE browsers?
as far as i know ns6 supports iframes but not all of the attributes. here's a list of browsers that should support them.
posted by t r a c y at 10:28 AM on May 9, 2003
as far as i know ns6 supports iframes but not all of the attributes. here's a list of browsers that should support them.
posted by t r a c y at 10:28 AM on May 9, 2003
"intelligent mefites who haven't a clue how the web works"
Ufez Jones is a "freaking budget analyst". I guess tcp/ip and iframes savvy aren't required for accountants these days. What's the world coming to? How do people who don't view the source code regularly even manage to tie their shoes. Sheesh.
And in theory there are ways this could have been done that would tax the server.
posted by y6y6y6 at 10:57 AM on May 9, 2003
Ufez Jones is a "freaking budget analyst". I guess tcp/ip and iframes savvy aren't required for accountants these days. What's the world coming to? How do people who don't view the source code regularly even manage to tie their shoes. Sheesh.
And in theory there are ways this could have been done that would tax the server.
posted by y6y6y6 at 10:57 AM on May 9, 2003
How? A separate iframe for each line?
posted by timeistight at 11:03 AM on May 9, 2003
posted by timeistight at 11:03 AM on May 9, 2003
q, y6, I'm lucky if I can set my alarm clock at night without spilling a glass of water on an electrical socket that would begin a chain of events that leads to the killing of thousands of Sri Lankan workers in a Nike factory. But on the other hand, there's a guy in my office under the age of 60 that I just saw typing using only the index finger on his right hand. At least I'm not the worst Luddite on my floor.
in theory there are ways this could have been done that would tax the server.
Vindication!
posted by Ufez Jones at 11:06 AM on May 9, 2003
in theory there are ways this could have been done that would tax the server.
Vindication!
posted by Ufez Jones at 11:06 AM on May 9, 2003
"How? A separate iframe for each line?"
By not using iframes. Matt could have a field in the preferences that would take a URL that would get included when the page is rendered.
Iframes are smarter, but doing it as an include gets around browsers that don't render iframes (like my PDA). It would also allow for caching, which could reduce the load on the original host. Not sure why Matt would want care to do that though. Best of all, it gives Matt an opportunity to parse and control what gets displayed.
posted by y6y6y6 at 11:42 AM on May 9, 2003
By not using iframes. Matt could have a field in the preferences that would take a URL that would get included when the page is rendered.
Iframes are smarter, but doing it as an include gets around browsers that don't render iframes (like my PDA). It would also allow for caching, which could reduce the load on the original host. Not sure why Matt would want care to do that though. Best of all, it gives Matt an opportunity to parse and control what gets displayed.
posted by y6y6y6 at 11:42 AM on May 9, 2003
t r a c y: More interesting: How did you do your userpage?
posted by zerofoks at 4:40 AM on May 10, 2003
posted by zerofoks at 4:40 AM on May 10, 2003
css in the "what's the deal with your nickname" field. on my userpage view source and scroll down (or use find) to just below where the "what's the deal with your..." text is, you'll see where the style tags begin.
posted by t r a c y at 9:13 AM on May 10, 2003
posted by t r a c y at 9:13 AM on May 10, 2003
Uhr. Why does tracy's trick work? Are ALL browsers so broken that they accept stylesheets in the BODY of the document? The ones that I've seen certainly are. This surprises me greatly.
posted by kindall at 10:43 AM on May 10, 2003
posted by kindall at 10:43 AM on May 10, 2003
Why is that broken? Does the spec specify where the "style" tag can live?
posted by timeistight at 1:18 PM on May 10, 2003
posted by timeistight at 1:18 PM on May 10, 2003
from what i know style tags can live pretty much anywhere... for instance you can use them in hyperlinks to force text decoration. here's an example from a webring code fragment:
<http://ringsurf.com/netring?ring=blogirls;id=1557;action=prev" target="_top" style="text-decoration:none">
if i used that tag on my weblog it would specifically override my site css (which specifies 2 types of text deco on links) on that one link.
posted by t r a c y at 2:23 PM on May 10, 2003
<http://ringsurf.com/netring?ring=blogirls;id=1557;action=prev" target="_top" style="text-decoration:none">
if i used that tag on my weblog it would specifically override my site css (which specifies 2 types of text deco on links) on that one link.
posted by t r a c y at 2:23 PM on May 10, 2003
My favorite trick for the user page is in using the style in the "p" tag, which, if you click me name, lets me float one paragraph and control the column width of the other.
posted by kaibutsu at 3:16 PM on May 10, 2003
posted by kaibutsu at 3:16 PM on May 10, 2003
Some time back I toyed with self-configuring the userpage. I think I overran the page's head tags somehow. Dunno offhand. The result was very limiting anyway and didn't work in many browsers. I ended up just giving up and relenting to the "What's the deal with your nickname? How did you get it? If your nickname is self-explanatory, then tell everyone when you first started using the internet, and what was the first thing that made you say "wow, this isn't just a place for freaks after all?" Was it a website? Was it an email from a long-lost friend? Go on, spill it." that I've personally always felt was an eyesore. t r a c y 's answer to the personalization of the MeFi userpage is inspired. Looks like it'd be fun to tinker with.
posted by ZachsMind at 8:50 PM on May 10, 2003
posted by ZachsMind at 8:50 PM on May 10, 2003
t r a c y 's answer to the personalization of the MeFi userpage is inspired.
yessir, it was inspired by bargle
( zachsmind, only 2 more to go! *sob* {{btvs}} )
posted by t r a c y at 3:31 AM on May 11, 2003
yessir, it was inspired by bargle
( zachsmind, only 2 more to go! *sob* {{btvs}} )
posted by t r a c y at 3:31 AM on May 11, 2003
Tracy, that's not a STYLE tag in your example, it's an attribute. Yes, you can put a STYLE attribute on many HTML tags. But stylesheets defined with the STYLE tag are supposed to go in the HEAD section of a document.
"The STYLE element allows authors to put style sheet rules in the head of the document. HTML permits any number of STYLE elements in the HEAD section of a document."
from the w3c.
So yeah, browsers that accept stylesheets in the BODY section of the document are broken, IMHO.
posted by kindall at 1:01 PM on May 11, 2003
"The STYLE element allows authors to put style sheet rules in the head of the document. HTML permits any number of STYLE elements in the HEAD section of a document."
from the w3c.
So yeah, browsers that accept stylesheets in the BODY section of the document are broken, IMHO.
posted by kindall at 1:01 PM on May 11, 2003
The iframes work fine on Mozilla 1.3/Win XP. From memory, it was internook that first did the iframe thing with his user page. At least, that is where I copied the idea from.
posted by dg at 4:06 PM on May 11, 2003
posted by dg at 4:06 PM on May 11, 2003
kindall - ohhhhhh, i see...! yah i would so not know the difference between a tag and an attribute, doh. i gave up on webdesign years ago so pay little attn to new tricks, web standards and the like. guess it just wasn't the hobby for me and now i'm stuck with all these websites that need upkeep and redesigning. i used to have so much fun with it, dunno what happened...
/moan, groan, ramble.
posted by t r a c y at 5:14 PM on May 11, 2003
/moan, groan, ramble.
posted by t r a c y at 5:14 PM on May 11, 2003
My userpage is inspiring. Frightening.
Buffy. Buffy Buffy Buffy. Caleb is such a nice man. Buffy is mean to him. At least they renewed Angel.
posted by bargle at 10:17 PM on May 12, 2003
Buffy. Buffy Buffy Buffy. Caleb is such a nice man. Buffy is mean to him. At least they renewed Angel.
posted by bargle at 10:17 PM on May 12, 2003
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posted by will at 6:57 AM on May 9, 2003