Metafilter's 20th: Any Plans May 23, 2018 8:27 AM Subscribe
If my math is correct Metafilter will be 20 next year. This seems like something that may take a year to plan. Are there any plans? Anyone planning on making plans? What's the plan for plans?
Free cat-scans for everyone!!
posted by Fizz at 8:44 AM on May 23, 2018 [35 favorites]
posted by Fizz at 8:44 AM on May 23, 2018 [35 favorites]
Also, I'm down for a Toronto/Canadian meetup. I've met like ONE person from MetaFilter in real life and that needs to change, there are so many amazing people here. Let's do this .
Also, I'm bad at planning, so someone else will have to do that, but I'm happy to help.
posted by Fizz at 8:46 AM on May 23, 2018 [3 favorites]
Also, I'm bad at planning, so someone else will have to do that, but I'm happy to help.
posted by Fizz at 8:46 AM on May 23, 2018 [3 favorites]
Crazy idea I thought of this second and that would probably require hiring an actual event planner and thus is out:
We should have a conference.
So receptions in the evening, talks/meetings during the day. Talks would be mefites talking about stuff that they know about. All different topics. Like our own personal TED but with lower production values, probably. In addition to formal talks, there could be roundtables (i.e. you set up a ballroom with either a general topic or no-topic and then designate individual tables to be about topic/subtopic x, with a few people who know about subtopic X scheduled to be there and then everyone goes there to talk about X....hey, it would be like The Blue but in person with people instead of posts as the discussion trigger!).
It should last 4-5 days. Childcare should be available. Matthowie and Cortex will be keynote speakers at the plenary sessions.
posted by If only I had a penguin... at 8:52 AM on May 23, 2018 [68 favorites]
We should have a conference.
So receptions in the evening, talks/meetings during the day. Talks would be mefites talking about stuff that they know about. All different topics. Like our own personal TED but with lower production values, probably. In addition to formal talks, there could be roundtables (i.e. you set up a ballroom with either a general topic or no-topic and then designate individual tables to be about topic/subtopic x, with a few people who know about subtopic X scheduled to be there and then everyone goes there to talk about X....hey, it would be like The Blue but in person with people instead of posts as the discussion trigger!).
It should last 4-5 days. Childcare should be available. Matthowie and Cortex will be keynote speakers at the plenary sessions.
posted by If only I had a penguin... at 8:52 AM on May 23, 2018 [68 favorites]
We could do a pot-luck! Everyone could leave their stuff out on the counter the night before!
....Though I guess it would suck if it was only plates of beans. :7(
posted by wenestvedt at 9:06 AM on May 23, 2018 [42 favorites]
....Though I guess it would suck if it was only plates of beans. :7(
posted by wenestvedt at 9:06 AM on May 23, 2018 [42 favorites]
Are there any FPPs that could reasonably be boiled down into articles, and the results done as a short-run or via POD? Emotional Labor, the "You do WHAT" threads, maybe the various words-of-wisdom/turning 20-30-40 AskMes?
posted by wenestvedt at 9:07 AM on May 23, 2018
posted by wenestvedt at 9:07 AM on May 23, 2018
We could do a pot-luck!
I'll sign up to bring lots of croutons for those who like to pet them. And extra bags for people who actually want to eat croutons.
posted by cynical pinnacle at 9:11 AM on May 23, 2018 [12 favorites]
I'll sign up to bring lots of croutons for those who like to pet them. And extra bags for people who actually want to eat croutons.
posted by cynical pinnacle at 9:11 AM on May 23, 2018 [12 favorites]
I want the meetup to have shirts that say "DTFMA" and "IANYD."
posted by DirtyOldTown at 9:14 AM on May 23, 2018 [6 favorites]
posted by DirtyOldTown at 9:14 AM on May 23, 2018 [6 favorites]
will there be a ball pit
posted by poffin boffin at 9:27 AM on May 23, 2018 [42 favorites]
posted by poffin boffin at 9:27 AM on May 23, 2018 [42 favorites]
....Though I guess it would suck if it was only plates of beans.
You've given me a lot to think about here, wenestvedt.
posted by ODiV at 9:40 AM on May 23, 2018 [8 favorites]
You've given me a lot to think about here, wenestvedt.
posted by ODiV at 9:40 AM on May 23, 2018 [8 favorites]
It slightly terrifies me that I remember the planning thread and the meetups for the 10th anniversary, and here we are planning the 20th.
For contrast, I didn't even bother to go to my 10 year high school reunion and I'm not even sure when the 20th is. It might even have passed.
posted by Happy Dave at 9:41 AM on May 23, 2018 [13 favorites]
For contrast, I didn't even bother to go to my 10 year high school reunion and I'm not even sure when the 20th is. It might even have passed.
posted by Happy Dave at 9:41 AM on May 23, 2018 [13 favorites]
My first meetup was Mrs. Pterodactyl's 15th Anniversary do in DC. Man, time flies.
posted by Johnny Wallflower at 9:44 AM on May 23, 2018 [3 favorites]
posted by Johnny Wallflower at 9:44 AM on May 23, 2018 [3 favorites]
It slightly terrifies me that I remember the planning thread and the meetups for the 10th anniversary, and here we are planning the 20th.
DITTO only it's not slightly
posted by ThePinkSuperhero at 9:57 AM on May 23, 2018 [6 favorites]
DITTO only it's not slightly
posted by ThePinkSuperhero at 9:57 AM on May 23, 2018 [6 favorites]
will there be a ball pit
Of course there will be a fucking ball pit.
posted by bondcliff at 10:40 AM on May 23, 2018 [12 favorites]
Of course there will be a fucking ball pit.
posted by bondcliff at 10:40 AM on May 23, 2018 [12 favorites]
How about a ballin' fuck-pit?
posted by uncleozzy at 10:54 AM on May 23, 2018 [6 favorites]
posted by uncleozzy at 10:54 AM on May 23, 2018 [6 favorites]
How about a ballin' fuck-pit?
now we’re talkin but only if there’s no flash photography
posted by chococat at 10:56 AM on May 23, 2018 [2 favorites]
now we’re talkin but only if there’s no flash photography
posted by chococat at 10:56 AM on May 23, 2018 [2 favorites]
What is the center of all metafilter user locations?
posted by Going To Maine at 11:27 AM on May 23, 2018 [1 favorite]
posted by Going To Maine at 11:27 AM on May 23, 2018 [1 favorite]
What is the center of all metafilter user locations?
Mine's over here somewhere
posted by aubilenon at 11:31 AM on May 23, 2018 [6 favorites]
Mine's over here somewhere
posted by aubilenon at 11:31 AM on May 23, 2018 [6 favorites]
I was thinking that instead of setting the Grand To-Do at the mathematical centre, we put it in Toronto (or anywhere in Canada). I realize this might sound self-serving, but I'm not saying it because it's near to me. I'm saying it because it's not in Trump-land. Of the places not in Trump-land Canada seems like the country most easily travelable to by most mefites and Toronto seems like the city most conveniently travelable to by the greatest number of mefites .
In conclusion, I want to come but I don't want to go to Trumpland. Please don't make me go to Trumpland. Plus don't you all want to take a break from Trumpland?
posted by If only I had a penguin... at 11:44 AM on May 23, 2018 [15 favorites]
In conclusion, I want to come but I don't want to go to Trumpland. Please don't make me go to Trumpland. Plus don't you all want to take a break from Trumpland?
posted by If only I had a penguin... at 11:44 AM on May 23, 2018 [15 favorites]
CAKE!
posted by Melismata at 11:44 AM on May 23, 2018 [2 favorites]
posted by Melismata at 11:44 AM on May 23, 2018 [2 favorites]
I guess if you average the locations of all mefites, it'd be somewhere inside the earth?
So start digging, everyone!
posted by aubilenon at 11:51 AM on May 23, 2018 [9 favorites]
So start digging, everyone!
posted by aubilenon at 11:51 AM on May 23, 2018 [9 favorites]
What is the center of all metafilter user locations?
Somewhere out of town where it still costs $20
posted by notorious medium at 12:02 PM on May 23, 2018 [27 favorites]
Somewhere out of town where it still costs $20
posted by notorious medium at 12:02 PM on May 23, 2018 [27 favorites]
Yay meetups!
...then again I live in Estonia and there are to my knowledge four Estonians on metafilter that I know of including myself, and I know them all personally, they all live in the same city as me, and I introduced mefi to two of them, so that particular meetup would not really differ from going for a walk downtown... oh well.
posted by Pyrogenesis at 12:08 PM on May 23, 2018 [19 favorites]
...then again I live in Estonia and there are to my knowledge four Estonians on metafilter that I know of including myself, and I know them all personally, they all live in the same city as me, and I introduced mefi to two of them, so that particular meetup would not really differ from going for a walk downtown... oh well.
posted by Pyrogenesis at 12:08 PM on May 23, 2018 [19 favorites]
Oh, wow. I remember going to the 10-year party here in Pittsburgh, brand new to the city, knowing no one, and feeling terribly awkward the entire time. And yet, it really was lovely, even if I haven't done another meetup since then. Could be a fun way to celebrate!
posted by miratime at 12:15 PM on May 23, 2018 [2 favorites]
posted by miratime at 12:15 PM on May 23, 2018 [2 favorites]
Maybe we should postpone celebrating the 20th anniversary for a full year, and then go out and get Metafilter drunk.
posted by Strange Interlude at 12:41 PM on May 23, 2018 [12 favorites]
posted by Strange Interlude at 12:41 PM on May 23, 2018 [12 favorites]
Vermonters -- and those who travel -- can likely meet at our place. Vermont's legal weed law will be in full effect, so we have that going for us.
posted by terrapin at 1:08 PM on May 23, 2018 [6 favorites]
posted by terrapin at 1:08 PM on May 23, 2018 [6 favorites]
My first meet-up was the 10th anniversary party in Portland - my first time meeting cortex, mathowie and the crew. I got drunk on champagne and proceeded to pull out my melodica and play Michael Jackson covers.
I promise I won't do that at the 20th. I'm a changed man. Sort of.
posted by Lutoslawski at 1:35 PM on May 23, 2018 [7 favorites]
I promise I won't do that at the 20th. I'm a changed man. Sort of.
posted by Lutoslawski at 1:35 PM on May 23, 2018 [7 favorites]
Wait a second. The 10th anniversary was just like two years ago what the fuck.
posted by maxsparber at 1:41 PM on May 23, 2018 [27 favorites]
posted by maxsparber at 1:41 PM on May 23, 2018 [27 favorites]
MOMU2! there is no Chicago Cabal This definitely gives legitimacy to the determination that we will have our 10 year anniversary of First Wednesday Meet Ups in Chicago this November.
posted by crush at 1:49 PM on May 23, 2018 [3 favorites]
posted by crush at 1:49 PM on May 23, 2018 [3 favorites]
I'll set up a booth where MeFites can try to guess whether a given mushroom is a portabella or not.
posted by Pope Guilty at 1:53 PM on May 23, 2018 [7 favorites]
posted by Pope Guilty at 1:53 PM on May 23, 2018 [7 favorites]
I'll set up a booth where MeFites can try to guess whether a given mushroom is a portabella or not.
I'm guessing it isn't.
Also, why do you need a booth for this?
posted by aubilenon at 2:02 PM on May 23, 2018 [2 favorites]
I'm guessing it isn't.
Also, why do you need a booth for this?
posted by aubilenon at 2:02 PM on May 23, 2018 [2 favorites]
Wait until you find out when the 90s were, maxsparber.
posted by ODiV at 2:26 PM on May 23, 2018 [5 favorites]
posted by ODiV at 2:26 PM on May 23, 2018 [5 favorites]
I used to do jokey things like say that there was less time between Woodstock and Nirvana than between Nirvana and now but stop doing that when those things started to be true.
posted by maxsparber at 2:32 PM on May 23, 2018 [9 favorites]
posted by maxsparber at 2:32 PM on May 23, 2018 [9 favorites]
I believe that MetaFilter's 20th Anniversary deserves a year-long celebration starting on the 19th. Spread out the meetups, add gift and card exchanges, decorate the site (maybe alternating among the sub-sites) and do a MetaGreat Moments in MetaFilter History post each week... I'll contribute (#1 Cat Scanning).
posted by oneswellfoop at 2:45 PM on May 23, 2018 [6 favorites]
posted by oneswellfoop at 2:45 PM on May 23, 2018 [6 favorites]
pull out my melodica and play Michael Jackson covers.
I really want that to be a euphemism because it's magnificent.
posted by smoke at 3:31 PM on May 23, 2018 [8 favorites]
I really want that to be a euphemism because it's magnificent.
posted by smoke at 3:31 PM on May 23, 2018 [8 favorites]
Maybe we should postpone celebrating the 20th anniversary for a full year, and then go out and get Metafilter drunk.
No need to wait! Have the anniversary meetup in Japan! The drinking age here is twenty!
though there's no standard ID nationally, and driver's licenses aren't as common, so no one *really* checks IDs. Really, MetaFilter could have been drinking for years of only it was here!
posted by Ghidorah at 3:43 PM on May 23, 2018 [2 favorites]
No need to wait! Have the anniversary meetup in Japan! The drinking age here is twenty!
though there's no standard ID nationally, and driver's licenses aren't as common, so no one *really* checks IDs. Really, MetaFilter could have been drinking for years of only it was here!
posted by Ghidorah at 3:43 PM on May 23, 2018 [2 favorites]
They've since put a cap on street closure permits so no Chicago Cabal* sockpuppet block party this time 'round, sadly.
* TINCC
posted by eamondaly at 3:50 PM on May 23, 2018 [3 favorites]
* TINCC
posted by eamondaly at 3:50 PM on May 23, 2018 [3 favorites]
The drinking age in Quebec, Manitoba, and Alberta is 18, so really, MetaFilter could be legally drunk right now if it wanted to be, and all it has to is cross a land border.
posted by jacquilynne at 4:26 PM on May 23, 2018 [2 favorites]
posted by jacquilynne at 4:26 PM on May 23, 2018 [2 favorites]
Vermont's legal weed law will be in full effect, so we have that going for us
Heh, Canada will have legal weed over the summer too. Except, it is been basically legal for a few years now with dispensaries and lounges openly operating. Why doesn't Vermont just join Canada?
posted by saucysault at 4:28 PM on May 23, 2018
Heh, Canada will have legal weed over the summer too. Except, it is been basically legal for a few years now with dispensaries and lounges openly operating. Why doesn't Vermont just join Canada?
posted by saucysault at 4:28 PM on May 23, 2018
Why doesn't Vermont just join Canada?
I have some friends in New Hampshire, let's grab them while we're at it.
posted by Fizz at 4:34 PM on May 23, 2018 [1 favorite]
I have some friends in New Hampshire, let's grab them while we're at it.
posted by Fizz at 4:34 PM on May 23, 2018 [1 favorite]
out of all the states i feel like new hampshire is the least likely to agree to once again be subject to that particular constitutional monarchy
posted by poffin boffin at 5:55 PM on May 23, 2018 [7 favorites]
posted by poffin boffin at 5:55 PM on May 23, 2018 [7 favorites]
I should be down in MA and can have people at my place down there. Maybe a board game meetup. Is the actual date the 18th?
posted by jessamyn (retired) at 7:02 PM on May 23, 2018 [7 favorites]
posted by jessamyn (retired) at 7:02 PM on May 23, 2018 [7 favorites]
Why doesn't Vermont just join Canada?
I have some friends in New Hampshire, let's grab them while we're at it.
Um, hello, Canada wraps around Maine; don't leave us behind.
posted by theora55 at 7:09 PM on May 23, 2018 [2 favorites]
I have some friends in New Hampshire, let's grab them while we're at it.
Um, hello, Canada wraps around Maine; don't leave us behind.
posted by theora55 at 7:09 PM on May 23, 2018 [2 favorites]
Trump won 44% of the vote in Maine, 47% in New Hampshire, and 30.2% in Vermont. I think I speak on behalf of Canada when I say: Nope.
posted by If only I had a penguin... at 7:15 PM on May 23, 2018
posted by If only I had a penguin... at 7:15 PM on May 23, 2018
miratime: "Oh, wow. I remember going to the 10-year party here in Pittsburgh, brand new to the city, knowing no one, and feeling terribly awkward the entire time. And yet, it really was lovely, even if I haven't done another meetup since then. Could be a fun way to celebrate!"
I still have a Flickr album of that meetup.
posted by octothorpe at 7:30 PM on May 23, 2018 [3 favorites]
I still have a Flickr album of that meetup.
posted by octothorpe at 7:30 PM on May 23, 2018 [3 favorites]
I would be possibly be down for a Toronto trip next year; I would definitely be down for a Toronto trip next year if MeFiXX coincided with TCAF.
Would it be practical to put tentative/placeholder MeFiXX* celebrations in IRL, or way too soon for that?
*It's so fetch!
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 9:57 PM on May 23, 2018 [2 favorites]
Would it be practical to put tentative/placeholder MeFiXX* celebrations in IRL, or way too soon for that?
*It's so fetch!
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 9:57 PM on May 23, 2018 [2 favorites]
Why don't we just do a live video call for 24-36-whatever hours that people can dial into at any point and chat?
posted by bendy at 10:53 PM on May 23, 2018 [4 favorites]
posted by bendy at 10:53 PM on May 23, 2018 [4 favorites]
Convention? Anniversary Dinner? Weekend at a campground? Cruise ship? WebEx/Google Hangouts comparison testing?
posted by ZeusHumms at 6:54 AM on May 24, 2018
posted by ZeusHumms at 6:54 AM on May 24, 2018
IF YOU ARE GETTING TO IT LATE BRING ICE!
posted by vrakatar at 7:36 AM on May 24, 2018 [1 favorite]
posted by vrakatar at 7:36 AM on May 24, 2018 [1 favorite]
I was first shown the Blue by mefi's own Janet Kagan. I just realized she's been gone. for. ten. years. I lurked for years before joining. But my kid was a toddler when Janet told me I needed to be here... and he's in college now. I'm going to celebrate MefiXX in part by getting together a financial contribution, and by making my first fpp. And by raising a glass to Janet.
posted by Nancy_LockIsLit_Palmer at 8:33 AM on May 24, 2018 [10 favorites]
posted by Nancy_LockIsLit_Palmer at 8:33 AM on May 24, 2018 [10 favorites]
>I still have a Flickr album of that meetup.
... Well now we definitely have to do it again because I barely recognize myself in those pictures! Ye gods and little catfishes.
posted by miratime at 8:38 AM on May 24, 2018 [1 favorite]
... Well now we definitely have to do it again because I barely recognize myself in those pictures! Ye gods and little catfishes.
posted by miratime at 8:38 AM on May 24, 2018 [1 favorite]
I remember metafilter's 8th anniversary where Matt rented out Ground Kontrol in Portland. I was there as was jessamyn, cortex and pb. Flickr photos were tagged mefi8.
posted by vacapinta at 8:59 AM on May 24, 2018 [4 favorites]
posted by vacapinta at 8:59 AM on May 24, 2018 [4 favorites]
I'm so down for a Seattle thing. Y'know, you guys? We could maybe even plan a near-Seattle thing where we rent out a group campground or something, or a venue space.
I still regret missing the 10 year in NOLA, which apparently was ridiculous.
Why don't we just do a live video call for 24-36-whatever hours that people can dial into at any point and chat?
I was going to suggest something like this. Almost everyone has tablets, smartphones and/or laptops that are fully video capable now.
My idea is that if we had a central video chat place people can even set up multiple links to meetups if they coincide, IE meetup in city A has simultaneous views of meetups B, C, and D by either a centralized mirror like CuSeeMe used to do or multiple device and facetime/hangout/whatever calls.
Most venues have the bandwidth for this now, too, so it would be a lot easier than ever.
posted by loquacious at 10:09 AM on May 24, 2018 [3 favorites]
I still regret missing the 10 year in NOLA, which apparently was ridiculous.
Why don't we just do a live video call for 24-36-whatever hours that people can dial into at any point and chat?
I was going to suggest something like this. Almost everyone has tablets, smartphones and/or laptops that are fully video capable now.
My idea is that if we had a central video chat place people can even set up multiple links to meetups if they coincide, IE meetup in city A has simultaneous views of meetups B, C, and D by either a centralized mirror like CuSeeMe used to do or multiple device and facetime/hangout/whatever calls.
Most venues have the bandwidth for this now, too, so it would be a lot easier than ever.
posted by loquacious at 10:09 AM on May 24, 2018 [3 favorites]
Well I think there should be fireworks, the night time pretty kind not the flamewar kind.
posted by sammyo at 10:26 AM on May 24, 2018 [1 favorite]
posted by sammyo at 10:26 AM on May 24, 2018 [1 favorite]
Although if there is a conference a session of readings of the "best of deleted posts" would be kinda fun.
posted by sammyo at 10:27 AM on May 24, 2018 [4 favorites]
posted by sammyo at 10:27 AM on May 24, 2018 [4 favorites]
Plates of beans for lunch that day, obviously!
posted by missmobtown at 11:39 AM on May 24, 2018
posted by missmobtown at 11:39 AM on May 24, 2018
I will bring my robe and wizard hat, just let me know the time and place.
posted by rhizome at 12:00 PM on May 24, 2018 [4 favorites]
posted by rhizome at 12:00 PM on May 24, 2018 [4 favorites]
London or Paris!!
posted by ellieBOA at 12:23 PM on May 24, 2018 [2 favorites]
posted by ellieBOA at 12:23 PM on May 24, 2018 [2 favorites]
I have a little MeFi 20th anniversary plan of my own. I'm going to knit that MeFi hoodie that I've been meaning to make for years, and I'm going to write up the pattern and put it on Ravelry for free (I can't in good conscience charge for a design that essentially includes a brand name) so any knitting MeFites who want to can make one for themselves. It'll be my anniversary present to the Metafilter community.
As for meetups, I wish I could take a trip to somewhere special in order to go to a meetup, but the reality is I'll probably be going to a Toronto meetup.
posted by orange swan at 1:16 PM on May 24, 2018 [9 favorites]
As for meetups, I wish I could take a trip to somewhere special in order to go to a meetup, but the reality is I'll probably be going to a Toronto meetup.
posted by orange swan at 1:16 PM on May 24, 2018 [9 favorites]
I will be 60 next year. The abject fear and loathing surrounding this fact may overshadow any other anniversary. I'll get back to you.
posted by Splunge at 1:59 PM on May 24, 2018 [4 favorites]
posted by Splunge at 1:59 PM on May 24, 2018 [4 favorites]
Although if there is a conference a session of readings of the "best of deleted posts" would be kinda fun.
Agreed. *searches for neu and sixcolors*
posted by Melismata at 2:21 PM on May 24, 2018 [1 favorite]
Agreed. *searches for neu and sixcolors*
posted by Melismata at 2:21 PM on May 24, 2018 [1 favorite]
I like the idea of a conference, maybe even invite social media and community scholars. I suspect the geographic middle of our demographic is closer to Chicago or Nashville, maybe Indianapolis or Columbus or Detroit or Monreal if you factor in weighing international members a bit more. If you weigh them in too much we're in New York or Jessamyn's house.
Of course, this geographic approach assumes the best result will come from inconveniencing everyone equally. Perhaps we should just meet in New York where being annoyed is recognized as a virtue, and the inconvenience is more like a constant.
posted by Stanczyk at 3:33 PM on May 24, 2018 [1 favorite]
Of course, this geographic approach assumes the best result will come from inconveniencing everyone equally. Perhaps we should just meet in New York where being annoyed is recognized as a virtue, and the inconvenience is more like a constant.
posted by Stanczyk at 3:33 PM on May 24, 2018 [1 favorite]
MetaCon?
MetaScan?
MetaCatCon?
I'm just spitballing ideas for possible swag (bumper stickers, lanyards, t-shirts, etc.).
posted by Fizz at 3:58 PM on May 24, 2018
MetaScan?
MetaCatCon?
I'm just spitballing ideas for possible swag (bumper stickers, lanyards, t-shirts, etc.).
posted by Fizz at 3:58 PM on May 24, 2018
I vote for Detroit!
posted by elsietheeel at 4:57 PM on May 24, 2018 [1 favorite]
posted by elsietheeel at 4:57 PM on May 24, 2018 [1 favorite]
There should be parties and gatherings EVERYWHERE we dwell. Hell, if I recall correctly, we partied on every continent for the mefi 10th- there was a mefite doing science in the antarctic who roped her (?) science friends into having a little shindig. We had 300 people in NYC, and despite the stress and hassle the NYC party was awesome. Ample booze! Live band! Speeches! The great big mulp! Me and stickycarpet ready to murder each other! Liquid metal! Regular metal! Cupcakes that made you poop green poop! COME ON MEFI DREAM BIGGEST!
posted by vrakatar at 5:28 PM on May 24, 2018 [6 favorites]
posted by vrakatar at 5:28 PM on May 24, 2018 [6 favorites]
MetaFilterDotCon
posted by biogeo at 7:00 PM on May 24, 2018 [5 favorites]
posted by biogeo at 7:00 PM on May 24, 2018 [5 favorites]
CrouCon
posted by rhizome at 7:05 PM on May 24, 2018 [2 favorites]
posted by rhizome at 7:05 PM on May 24, 2018 [2 favorites]
I have never been to a meetup, despite lurking/being here for some time.
I would like to attend something somewhere.
The most striking thing I noticed about the links to pictures above is how people were carrying actual cameras.
posted by sara is disenchanted at 7:26 PM on May 24, 2018 [4 favorites]
I would like to attend something somewhere.
The most striking thing I noticed about the links to pictures above is how people were carrying actual cameras.
posted by sara is disenchanted at 7:26 PM on May 24, 2018 [4 favorites]
WE HAVE THOSE THEY ARE CAMERAS
posted by vrakatar at 8:34 PM on May 24, 2018 [8 favorites]
posted by vrakatar at 8:34 PM on May 24, 2018 [8 favorites]
In all seriousness, I think a worldwide convention is a good idea. I remember the 8th anniversary meetup in Portland as a big deal and people traveled from all over and it was really sweet and Jessamyn gave me a hug. I think a large number of us would travel and would help transport and house Mefites who want to go but lack the means. I’m thinking of talks on “What I’m Doing and How Mefi Helped” performances by Mefi Performers, food by Mefi cooks, and drinks by Mefi Brewers. I just came back from EG in Carmel (an outgrowth of the original TED community) and Mefi can totally do this. As proof, I nominate Someone Else to make this happen. And I will totally support Someone Else in making this happen.
posted by Slarty Bartfast at 10:02 PM on May 24, 2018 [6 favorites]
posted by Slarty Bartfast at 10:02 PM on May 24, 2018 [6 favorites]
Whatever we do there should definitely be plates of beans served. (Possibly with a note saying: yes, you can eat this.)
posted by sexyrobot at 2:11 AM on May 25, 2018
posted by sexyrobot at 2:11 AM on May 25, 2018
Is the actual date the 18th?
Further to the (as yet unanswered) question of our honourable MeFi-colleague:
I note, from cursory research, that the MeFi 10th anniversary celebrations appear to have taken place over a 3-day period, being 17, 18 and 19 July 2009.
Yet the archives of this web-site indicate that their oldest entry was that certain MetaFilter post made by our blessed Matriarch "Ma Thowie" and promulgated on 14 July 1999 (at 10.03 PM, Greenwich Mean Time).
The URL of such post, however, suggests that it was the 19th post made to MetaFilter, and not the first (one can only assume that a certain "test" post was, in fact, the true moment of MetaFilter's genesis).
I assume that 17-19 July 2009 was chosen as the appropriate period for celebration of the completion of MetaFilter's first decade because the 14th of such month in such year was a Tuesday.
In 2019, however, the 14th of July will be a Sunday. We therefore have the opportunity to more precisely align our festivities with both the correct anniversary and a conveniently-situated weekend.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 3:36 AM on May 25, 2018 [9 favorites]
Further to the (as yet unanswered) question of our honourable MeFi-colleague:
I note, from cursory research, that the MeFi 10th anniversary celebrations appear to have taken place over a 3-day period, being 17, 18 and 19 July 2009.
Yet the archives of this web-site indicate that their oldest entry was that certain MetaFilter post made by our blessed Matriarch "Ma Thowie" and promulgated on 14 July 1999 (at 10.03 PM, Greenwich Mean Time).
The URL of such post, however, suggests that it was the 19th post made to MetaFilter, and not the first (one can only assume that a certain "test" post was, in fact, the true moment of MetaFilter's genesis).
I assume that 17-19 July 2009 was chosen as the appropriate period for celebration of the completion of MetaFilter's first decade because the 14th of such month in such year was a Tuesday.
In 2019, however, the 14th of July will be a Sunday. We therefore have the opportunity to more precisely align our festivities with both the correct anniversary and a conveniently-situated weekend.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 3:36 AM on May 25, 2018 [9 favorites]
Further brief analysis of the Meta archives suggests that 14 July 2019 will also be:
The 19.3616438356164th anniversary of the first (extant) posting to MetaTalk (4 March 2000);
The 15.5972602739726th anniversary of the first (extant) posting to AskMetaFilter (8 December 2003)
The 5.02657534246575th anniversary of the first (extant) posting to Fanfare (8 April 2014)
The 13.6547945205479th anniversary of the first (extant) posting to MetaFilter Projects (7 November 2005)
The 13.0383561643835th anniversary of the first (extant) posting to MeFi Music (30 June 2006);
The 12.8849315068493th anniversary of the first (extant) posting to MetaFilter Jobs (24 August 2006); and
The 9.20273972660273th anniversary of the first (extant) posting to IRL: Mefi Events (1 May 2010).
So in accordance with our newly-established policy of calendrical exactitude, I would be grateful if members could also celebrate those anniversaries (to 14 decimal places) at the appropriate time.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 6:42 AM on May 25, 2018 [6 favorites]
The 19.3616438356164th anniversary of the first (extant) posting to MetaTalk (4 March 2000);
The 15.5972602739726th anniversary of the first (extant) posting to AskMetaFilter (8 December 2003)
The 5.02657534246575th anniversary of the first (extant) posting to Fanfare (8 April 2014)
The 13.6547945205479th anniversary of the first (extant) posting to MetaFilter Projects (7 November 2005)
The 13.0383561643835th anniversary of the first (extant) posting to MeFi Music (30 June 2006);
The 12.8849315068493th anniversary of the first (extant) posting to MetaFilter Jobs (24 August 2006); and
The 9.20273972660273th anniversary of the first (extant) posting to IRL: Mefi Events (1 May 2010).
So in accordance with our newly-established policy of calendrical exactitude, I would be grateful if members could also celebrate those anniversaries (to 14 decimal places) at the appropriate time.
posted by the quidnunc kid at 6:42 AM on May 25, 2018 [6 favorites]
The 14th of July 2019 will also be my 30th birthday, so party at mine I guess?
I find it kind of neat being 10 years older than the site. My overriding memory from 1999 was thinking that the millennium was the dumbest thing. I still stand by that assessment.
posted by terretu at 7:16 AM on May 25, 2018
I find it kind of neat being 10 years older than the site. My overriding memory from 1999 was thinking that the millennium was the dumbest thing. I still stand by that assessment.
posted by terretu at 7:16 AM on May 25, 2018
Iirc coldchef plugged for NOLA to help the city after hurricane Katrina and it was just supposed to be there, but the stock market crashed in fall 08 and it was thought better to have more parties so people wouldn't have to travel.
posted by brujita at 7:59 AM on May 25, 2018 [2 favorites]
posted by brujita at 7:59 AM on May 25, 2018 [2 favorites]
Someone should organize a pancake breakfast!!
posted by bjgeiger at 8:40 AM on May 25, 2018 [1 favorite]
posted by bjgeiger at 8:40 AM on May 25, 2018 [1 favorite]
Pancakes, beans, taters...what else on the menu?
posted by rhizome at 11:23 AM on May 25, 2018 [1 favorite]
posted by rhizome at 11:23 AM on May 25, 2018 [1 favorite]
I would think the most important item on any Metafilter celebratory menu would be cheese (legally or illegally obtained).
posted by Ashwagandha at 12:05 PM on May 25, 2018 [1 favorite]
posted by Ashwagandha at 12:05 PM on May 25, 2018 [1 favorite]
Portobello mushrooms seem necessary, even though I loathe mushrooms.
posted by janell at 12:21 PM on May 25, 2018
posted by janell at 12:21 PM on May 25, 2018
Chocolate that you're not quite sure where it came from, but probably involved some sort of dumpster diving?
posted by Margalo Epps at 2:18 PM on May 25, 2018
posted by Margalo Epps at 2:18 PM on May 25, 2018
The most striking thing I noticed about the links to pictures above is how people were carrying actual cameras.
I had my little Panasonic pocket camera which was pretty great when I bought it in 2007.
posted by octothorpe at 2:39 PM on May 25, 2018
I had my little Panasonic pocket camera which was pretty great when I bought it in 2007.
posted by octothorpe at 2:39 PM on May 25, 2018
The Captain's Quarters II is available mid-July '19...
posted by Rhaomi at 7:16 PM on May 25, 2018 [2 favorites]
posted by Rhaomi at 7:16 PM on May 25, 2018 [2 favorites]
Goddamn it, there *must* be a Mefite that owns a castle off the coast of Scotland or a decommissioned ICBM silo or the Astodome or something. I will personally pay for the Taco Truck and margarita machine if cortex organizes the stage where chococat, Brad Sucks, and flapjax at midnight play. And also my yet to be organized Sonics cover band (hello errant!).
posted by Slarty Bartfast at 9:11 PM on May 25, 2018 [1 favorite]
posted by Slarty Bartfast at 9:11 PM on May 25, 2018 [1 favorite]
MetaCon?
MetaScan?
MetaCatCon?
MetaFilterDotCon
CrouCon
BeanCon, surely
posted by Greg_Ace at 9:19 PM on May 25, 2018 [1 favorite]
MetaScan?
MetaCatCon?
MetaFilterDotCon
CrouCon
BeanCon, surely
posted by Greg_Ace at 9:19 PM on May 25, 2018 [1 favorite]
Goddamn it, there *must* be a Mefite that owns a castle off the coast of Scotland or a decommissioned ICBM silo or the Astodome or something.
Easy there. Which do you want? And by that I mean missile silo. And by that I mean, call me.
posted by Splunge at 1:21 AM on May 26, 2018
Easy there. Which do you want? And by that I mean missile silo. And by that I mean, call me.
posted by Splunge at 1:21 AM on May 26, 2018
Oh, wait. Decommissioned. Forget it.
posted by Splunge at 1:22 AM on May 26, 2018 [3 favorites]
posted by Splunge at 1:22 AM on May 26, 2018 [3 favorites]
So receptions in the evening, talks/meetings during the day. Talks would be mefites talking about stuff that they know about. All different topics. Like our own personal TED
I like the idea of a conference, maybe even invite social media and community scholars.
I like this idea too. Especially because it could function as the focus, but people could choose to attend part or all, and stay over wherever they wanted. The program could have talk sessions, but also side trips/cocktail events/dinners etc. But it would be a hell of a lot to coordinate, as a caveat. The cellular nature of the 10th worked really well as a solution.
Given the advances in livestreaming since the 10th, what about a hybrid global/local event? A home base in some central location, livestreaming events/talks/whatever, that coordinated groups around the world could join into in realtime?
posted by Miko at 5:05 AM on May 26, 2018 [6 favorites]
10 AM: Proper Cast Iron Pan Care Technique: 3 distinguished panelists consider cast iron from informed perspectives: metallurgy, folk custom and tradition, and benign neglect, followed by debateTo throw in another historical datapoint, in 2013 there was some energy around a weekend-long "Camp Metafilter" retreat event. I was overwhelmed with life around then, but this time around I could be willing to do more. And I do have a very affordable and lovely site to offer. It's about an hour from Philadelphia and so maybe not the easiest place in the world for lots of folk to get to, but it's one option.
I like the idea of a conference, maybe even invite social media and community scholars.
I like this idea too. Especially because it could function as the focus, but people could choose to attend part or all, and stay over wherever they wanted. The program could have talk sessions, but also side trips/cocktail events/dinners etc. But it would be a hell of a lot to coordinate, as a caveat. The cellular nature of the 10th worked really well as a solution.
Given the advances in livestreaming since the 10th, what about a hybrid global/local event? A home base in some central location, livestreaming events/talks/whatever, that coordinated groups around the world could join into in realtime?
posted by Miko at 5:05 AM on May 26, 2018 [6 favorites]
10 AM: Proper Cast Iron Pan Care Technique: 3 distinguished panelists consider cast iron from informed perspectives: metallurgy, folk custom and tradition, and benign neglect, followed by debate
Could this be in the form of a workshop? Or maybe with a follow-up workshop? Because I swear I've followed all the instructions and my cast iron still rusts. Boy, I'm glad this is going to be in Toronto so I don't have to carry all my cast iron through an airport.
posted by If only I had a penguin... at 5:37 AM on May 26, 2018 [3 favorites]
Could this be in the form of a workshop? Or maybe with a follow-up workshop? Because I swear I've followed all the instructions and my cast iron still rusts. Boy, I'm glad this is going to be in Toronto so I don't have to carry all my cast iron through an airport.
posted by If only I had a penguin... at 5:37 AM on May 26, 2018 [3 favorites]
I like the idea of a conference but with day-drinking and weed-smoking instead of presentations and panels.
posted by Jacqueline at 10:01 AM on May 26, 2018 [8 favorites]
posted by Jacqueline at 10:01 AM on May 26, 2018 [8 favorites]
I would like there to be a thing where FanFare people watch something together in the same room.
PonyCon
posted by rhizome at 10:22 AM on May 26, 2018
PonyCon
posted by rhizome at 10:22 AM on May 26, 2018
So, the proposal is a Math Camp? I wasn't told about a test. Obligatory.
posted by theora55 at 10:35 AM on May 26, 2018
posted by theora55 at 10:35 AM on May 26, 2018
Pancakes, beans, taters...what else on the menu?
Questionable foods that have been left out all night.
posted by Slarty Bartfast at 11:19 AM on May 26, 2018 [5 favorites]
Questionable foods that have been left out all night.
posted by Slarty Bartfast at 11:19 AM on May 26, 2018 [5 favorites]
EVERYTHING will be left out all night, that's a given.
posted by rhizome at 11:58 AM on May 26, 2018 [1 favorite]
posted by rhizome at 11:58 AM on May 26, 2018 [1 favorite]
[INSERT REFERENCE FROM OLDEN TIMES HERE]
posted by Chrysostom at 12:06 PM on May 26, 2018 [1 favorite]
posted by Chrysostom at 12:06 PM on May 26, 2018 [1 favorite]
day drinking and weed smoking
I wouldn't turn out for that alone, though I'm sure many people would love it and there's nothing wrong with that if it's your thing. I guess this is another reason arguing for a celebration as a more cellular thing - there are many different agendas that people define as 'fun' or 'connecting', so beyond a short meetup, it's not actually easy to meet all the interests of attendees - sober/recovery people and other non-drinkers, people with kids who want to bring them along, board gamers, people who would really like to do crafts or tours or talks or 'ideas' stuff who just might not be the same folks as those who want a party meetup, or want a different mix of party vs. other activities.
posted by Miko at 7:44 PM on May 26, 2018 [2 favorites]
I wouldn't turn out for that alone, though I'm sure many people would love it and there's nothing wrong with that if it's your thing. I guess this is another reason arguing for a celebration as a more cellular thing - there are many different agendas that people define as 'fun' or 'connecting', so beyond a short meetup, it's not actually easy to meet all the interests of attendees - sober/recovery people and other non-drinkers, people with kids who want to bring them along, board gamers, people who would really like to do crafts or tours or talks or 'ideas' stuff who just might not be the same folks as those who want a party meetup, or want a different mix of party vs. other activities.
posted by Miko at 7:44 PM on May 26, 2018 [2 favorites]
I don't care if you find it fun, don't bring it. I've watched that game tear apart parties even involving people who weren't playing it.
Ditto Monopoly.
posted by RolandOfEld at 10:56 PM on May 26, 2018
Ditto Monopoly.
posted by RolandOfEld at 10:56 PM on May 26, 2018
And, while I'm unlikely to make it and it would be a gateway drug of sorts for folks like myself, I think the video chat idea is nowhere near as tenable or nice as just having folks do a physical meet somewheres interesting or functional or, ideally, both and leaving the digital/tech aspects of it, be it sharing stories or pictures, until after the fact.
I dunno, it seems very 90s conference call that's trying way too hard and/or The Office episode where there was a corporate party in NYC and all the branch offices dialed in to webcast their simultaneous-yet-completely-not-the-awesome-corporate party and everyone cringes in unison at how not great it all works out.
posted by RolandOfEld at 11:02 PM on May 26, 2018 [1 favorite]
I dunno, it seems very 90s conference call that's trying way too hard and/or The Office episode where there was a corporate party in NYC and all the branch offices dialed in to webcast their simultaneous-yet-completely-not-the-awesome-corporate party and everyone cringes in unison at how not great it all works out.
posted by RolandOfEld at 11:02 PM on May 26, 2018 [1 favorite]
I will bring pie to this convention where do I sign
posted by Hermione Granger at 11:36 PM on May 26, 2018
posted by Hermione Granger at 11:36 PM on May 26, 2018
I will bring pie to this convention
Now, I could definitely go for a cookoff or pie contest.
posted by Miko at 7:42 AM on May 27, 2018 [1 favorite]
Now, I could definitely go for a cookoff or pie contest.
posted by Miko at 7:42 AM on May 27, 2018 [1 favorite]
Respectfully, maybe you could stop policing how others enjoy themselves.
posted by Chrysostom at 8:48 AM on May 27, 2018 [3 favorites]
posted by Chrysostom at 8:48 AM on May 27, 2018 [3 favorites]
If people get to smoke marijuana, it's only fair I get to smoke harmless tobacco.
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 9:28 AM on May 27, 2018
posted by Alvy Ampersand at 9:28 AM on May 27, 2018
Cortex and I could probably throw a little thing at our house in Portland, with pancakes or catered food or something, at a minimum. It might be cool to rent an affordable venue though? I’ll put some thought into it, feel free to mefimail me if you have ideas. I’m pretty sure I’m not up to running a convention or an anniversary overnight camp (although I’m sure we’ll have our usual NW mefi camping trip in 2019 if people want to come to that!) - things like that take a lot of work to make sure they’re properly inclusive and accessible. I think my goal would be meeting at a place near easy public transit that has food of many sorts and drinks both alcoholic and non, where it’s possible to hear each other talk, and where both introverts and extroverts can feel comfortable. And I’d love to hire a doughnut foodcart.
posted by Secretariat at 11:11 AM on May 27, 2018 [3 favorites]
posted by Secretariat at 11:11 AM on May 27, 2018 [3 favorites]
There's probably no way that any real-life meeting will happen anywhere close enough for me to be there, unless I organise one. I'd be up for that but there are so few MeFites around that it's not likely that any would show up.
*sigh*
posted by Too-Ticky at 12:41 PM on May 27, 2018
*sigh*
posted by Too-Ticky at 12:41 PM on May 27, 2018
You can think whatever you like is enjoyable. But you're telling other people what to do, which is not the same thing.
posted by Chrysostom at 2:36 PM on May 27, 2018 [3 favorites]
posted by Chrysostom at 2:36 PM on May 27, 2018 [3 favorites]
STOP FIGHTING AND START PLANING THE PARTY YOU WANT.
This really comes down to where peeps are, and if there are no other mefites there, can they afford to travel? I live on an island with no mefites, and July is not a good, or cost effective time, to visit. So I'm looking at Providence, Boston, or jessamyn's.
posted by vrakatar at 5:57 PM on May 27, 2018 [1 favorite]
This really comes down to where peeps are, and if there are no other mefites there, can they afford to travel? I live on an island with no mefites, and July is not a good, or cost effective time, to visit. So I'm looking at Providence, Boston, or jessamyn's.
posted by vrakatar at 5:57 PM on May 27, 2018 [1 favorite]
You know what else is twenty? A twenty-pack of smokes. Coincidence? I think not.
posted by turbid dahlia at 7:10 PM on May 27, 2018
posted by turbid dahlia at 7:10 PM on May 27, 2018
To a smoker, everything looks like a coffin nail.
posted by a humble nudibranch at 12:31 AM on May 28, 2018 [2 favorites]
posted by a humble nudibranch at 12:31 AM on May 28, 2018 [2 favorites]
I'm not sure where I'll be in the world in July of 2019 (most likely either Finland and Iceland) so I'm all for having the kind of distributed celebration that MeFi10 had. Incidentally, I went to Portland for MeFi10 and I have all kinds of nostalgia for that party, ably captured in pb's video with clips and photos.
posted by Kattullus at 2:41 PM on May 28, 2018 [2 favorites]
posted by Kattullus at 2:41 PM on May 28, 2018 [2 favorites]
*flagged Jaqueline's comment as fantastic. My only request is no cilantro.
posted by yoga at 3:24 PM on May 28, 2018 [1 favorite]
posted by yoga at 3:24 PM on May 28, 2018 [1 favorite]
I’m up for anything, but especially no cilantro
posted by aubilenon at 11:22 AM on May 30, 2018 [1 favorite]
posted by aubilenon at 11:22 AM on May 30, 2018 [1 favorite]
At the ten year, we had 7 continents represented including Antarctica.
How cool would it be for the 20th if we could get representation on the ISS?
posted by Slarty Bartfast at 11:48 AM on May 30, 2018 [4 favorites]
How cool would it be for the 20th if we could get representation on the ISS?
posted by Slarty Bartfast at 11:48 AM on May 30, 2018 [4 favorites]
Apparently, MetaFilter has a user named cilantro. This isn't a no-homers type situation, I was referring to the herb. Sorry, if you're reading this and misunderstood!
posted by aubilenon at 2:07 PM on May 30, 2018 [2 favorites]
posted by aubilenon at 2:07 PM on May 30, 2018 [2 favorites]
This isn't a no-homers type situation
We're allowed to have one.
posted by rhizome at 5:11 PM on May 30, 2018 [3 favorites]
We're allowed to have one.
posted by rhizome at 5:11 PM on May 30, 2018 [3 favorites]
Aw, Kattullus, thanks for sharing that link. Some of the people in there have become my bestest of friends, and others I’m fond of but haven’t seen in a good long while. Made me tear up a little to think about how that means it’s been 10 years since I first met those people. <3
posted by Secretariat at 3:04 PM on May 31, 2018 [1 favorite]
posted by Secretariat at 3:04 PM on May 31, 2018 [1 favorite]
Make up your minds, people! Some of us need to sell a kidney to afford the air fare and you don't organize that overnight.
posted by ninazer0 at 10:15 PM on May 31, 2018 [1 favorite]
posted by ninazer0 at 10:15 PM on May 31, 2018 [1 favorite]
If we gave you more time could you merely rent out your kidney?
posted by aubilenon at 11:57 PM on May 31, 2018 [2 favorites]
posted by aubilenon at 11:57 PM on May 31, 2018 [2 favorites]
One could just piggy back on someone else's larger, more established convention and have many, many side events.
posted by ZeusHumms at 7:47 AM on June 1, 2018
posted by ZeusHumms at 7:47 AM on June 1, 2018
Hub cities like NY, SanFran, Chicago, London, somewhere in Korea (HI STAV) and all the others I'm not thinking of should start planning, maybe on IRL with handy sidebar links. I have the day off tomorrow and maybe I'll set up a Cape and Islands IRL.
posted by vrakatar at 4:50 PM on June 1, 2018 [1 favorite]
posted by vrakatar at 4:50 PM on June 1, 2018 [1 favorite]
Like hell I'll rent out a kidney! Sign a lease to someone and next thing there's like 20 college students throwing a party and you KNOW shit is gonna go down. Nuh uh. No way. Never again!
posted by ninazer0 at 1:22 AM on June 4, 2018 [2 favorites]
posted by ninazer0 at 1:22 AM on June 4, 2018 [2 favorites]
Hub cities like NY, SanFran, Chicago, London, somewhere in Korea (HI STAV) and all the others I'm not thinking of should start planning,
Seattle figures Portland will have a big meetup and fails to plan. Portland figures Seattle will plan a big meetup because it’s half way between Vancouver and Portland and fails to plan a meetup. Vancouver is a little skeptical about sending a contingent into Trumpistan but ultimately figures there will be a big meetup in either Seattle or Portland and fails to plan a meetup.
In the the end a Mefi husband and wife in Puyallup go to Red Robin for dinner and there’s your PNW meetup.
posted by Slarty Bartfast at 8:28 PM on June 4, 2018 [4 favorites]
Seattle figures Portland will have a big meetup and fails to plan. Portland figures Seattle will plan a big meetup because it’s half way between Vancouver and Portland and fails to plan a meetup. Vancouver is a little skeptical about sending a contingent into Trumpistan but ultimately figures there will be a big meetup in either Seattle or Portland and fails to plan a meetup.
In the the end a Mefi husband and wife in Puyallup go to Red Robin for dinner and there’s your PNW meetup.
posted by Slarty Bartfast at 8:28 PM on June 4, 2018 [4 favorites]
I no longer think a Toronto meet-up will be an exciting escape from the US.
posted by Going To Maine at 10:14 PM on June 7, 2018 [2 favorites]
posted by Going To Maine at 10:14 PM on June 7, 2018 [2 favorites]
Toronto will be on fire before it's anything like the US but go on.
posted by chococat at 10:55 PM on June 7, 2018 [2 favorites]
posted by chococat at 10:55 PM on June 7, 2018 [2 favorites]
👍🏻 🔥 🍫😺‼️
posted by Johnny Wallflower at 7:55 AM on June 8, 2018
posted by Johnny Wallflower at 7:55 AM on June 8, 2018
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