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NYC Meetup?
posted by mr_crash_davis to MetaFilter Gatherings at 7:14 AM (127 comments total) 5 users marked this as a favorite

Friday evening, May 4.

Venue suggestions?
posted by mr_crash_davis at 7:14 AM on April 20, 2007


gin?
posted by Stynxno at 7:18 AM on April 20, 2007


If you insist.
posted by mr_crash_davis at 7:19 AM on April 20, 2007


Sure!
posted by ThePinkSuperhero at 7:21 AM on April 20, 2007 [1 favorite]


I liked Revival the last/first time I was there, but that experience was colored by it being a Sunday afternoon right after St Patty's, so it might be a tad different on a Friday night.
posted by cyrusdogstar at 7:25 AM on April 20, 2007


I may regret doing this, but I have to recommend Temple Bar on Lafayette, which has become my regular.

It's spacious, comfortable, quiet enough to hear people talk, the pours are generous, they rock a major selection of both gins and vodkas, the wings are amazing, and we took something like twenty people there after my Cooper Union talk the other week, so I know they can handle crowds.
posted by adamgreenfield at 7:47 AM on April 20, 2007


I might actually make an effort to come to this one.
posted by yeti at 8:01 AM on April 20, 2007


Blind Tiger?
posted by blaneyphoto at 8:03 AM on April 20, 2007


I'm there.
posted by langeNU at 8:18 AM on April 20, 2007


should be there
posted by taliaferro at 8:25 AM on April 20, 2007


mcd and stinky?

oh shi!

/me goes and checks prices for last minute ticked to NYC
posted by dios at 8:35 AM on April 20, 2007


Yay! It'll be right before my birthday! I'm down.
posted by piratebowling at 8:50 AM on April 20, 2007


I will come barring other plans. Any chance we can move this into an abandoned building, have dios DJ and then tear up the place?
posted by geoff. at 8:54 AM on April 20, 2007


If it's early enough or late enough I'll make it.

geoff.: I'll bring the light bulbs.
posted by kosem at 8:58 AM on April 20, 2007


crash - how long are you on the east coast, and what's the occasion?
posted by yhbc at 9:08 AM on April 20, 2007


Just a couple of days. I have some work to do in our New Jersey office on Friday, so I fly in late Thursday night and back out on Saturday afternoon.
posted by mr_crash_davis at 9:15 AM on April 20, 2007


I should probably show my face at one of these things eventually.
posted by spicynuts at 9:18 AM on April 20, 2007


I, of course, will be ther to welcome MCD.
posted by jonmc at 9:42 AM on April 20, 2007


Me three!
posted by breezeway at 9:51 AM on April 20, 2007


I'm gonna give it a shot. (No Hanson in tow, haven't looked up their number yet).
posted by allkindsoftime at 9:56 AM on April 20, 2007


Both Temple Bar and Blind Tiger are quite good, but I can't make it.
posted by Mr. President Dr. Steve Elvis America at 10:01 AM on April 20, 2007


Count me..... *waits for blue foam in Magic 8-ball to clear*

....IN!
posted by hermitosis at 10:32 AM on April 20, 2007


Crappity crap. I'll be in NYC at the end of May and was going to suggest the same thing.
posted by Alt F4 at 10:58 AM on April 20, 2007


Okay, that's it. I'm gonna be there. And you'll be sorry.
posted by dame at 11:02 AM on April 20, 2007


That's my birthday. I will be there in spirit, so drink one for me.
posted by mygothlaundry at 11:14 AM on April 20, 2007


Temple Bar serves up a damn good martini. Don't know why, as there really shouldn't be so much variance in martini quality from one bar to the next, but they always seem to taste particularly nice there. Must be the popcorn accompaniment. Oh, crap. There I go plate of beansing my martinis and hangs again.
posted by psmealey at 11:38 AM on April 20, 2007


dios!
posted by Stynxno at 11:40 AM on April 20, 2007


Afroblanco: Seeing as? Aren't you the guy who hates "that [being] said"? And you use "seeing as"?!

I won't be able to make it, since y'all'd be gone by the time I got to NYC after work on Friday. I'll be there in June, almost certainly, though.
posted by Eideteker at 12:03 PM on April 20, 2007


Hey, isn't jessamyn coming to New York in a week or so?
posted by jason's_planet at 12:11 PM on April 20, 2007


psmealey--
Martinis are best served ice-cold.
Too often the 'tender won't chill the frigging glass.
Maybe the Templers know that.
I'd be honored to buy you one, but I'm not in town until the 16th.
posted by Dizzy at 12:19 PM on April 20, 2007


What's typical for first-timers at these things? Best to bring a wing-person, or to walk into the lion's den solo?
posted by psmealey at 12:21 PM on April 20, 2007


We're all naked at meetups. We just put on clothes for the pictures. So, yea, show up naked.
posted by ThePinkSuperhero at 1:03 PM on April 20, 2007 [1 favorite]


But seriously: meetups are for meeting new (interesting! beautiful! smart! funny!) people. If bringing someone you already know will help and not hinder that, bring 'em.
posted by ThePinkSuperhero at 1:04 PM on April 20, 2007 [1 favorite]


We're all naked at meetups.

Now you know why I'm so popular.
posted by jonmc at 1:19 PM on April 20, 2007


As long as no one's from Nantucket. I know a guy from there once...
posted by yeti at 1:38 PM on April 20, 2007


meetups are for meeting new (interesting! beautiful! smart! funny!) people.

Dammit, 1 for 5. I'll very much try to make this one.
posted by Skorgu at 1:57 PM on April 20, 2007


I'll make some noises about attending and then forget, like the last 3 times.
posted by sonofslim at 2:06 PM on April 20, 2007


I will probably go... but I'll have to scope and see what y'all look like before I volunteer that I'm one of you.
posted by psmealey at 2:21 PM on April 20, 2007


And sometimes new people walk in almost at the same time, meet each other before the rest of the group, and then everyone else thinks you already know each other.

Hey, it worked for taliaferro and me.
posted by langeNU at 2:47 PM on April 20, 2007


In nyc, and can't find another lurker to go with?? I'll maybe go, with my choice of fellow attractive lurker wingman.
posted by shownomercy at 3:10 PM on April 20, 2007


NYC Mefites are hot and slutty. Don't be afraid!
posted by dame at 3:15 PM on April 20, 2007


Crash is coming to town? i'll be there! : >
posted by amberglow at 3:17 PM on April 20, 2007


i'm in like flynn. and yay, new bars!
posted by youcancallmeal at 3:39 PM on April 20, 2007


Temple sounds cool, although I might run into former coworkers there, it's right up Lafayette from my old job. Not necessarily a bad thing, I left on good terms.

Sounds like Crash's appearance is bringing out all the antisocial losers folks who can't usually make it to meetups! :)

Tongue in cheek, since I myself tend to miss more meetups than I attend :(
posted by cyrusdogstar at 5:23 PM on April 20, 2007


Dude! Thanks for forgetting to email me that you were gonna be in town! I'm HURT! :(
posted by riffola at 7:19 PM on April 20, 2007


And yeah I'll be there for you, these five words... something something.
posted by riffola at 7:24 PM on April 20, 2007


As long as its not in Williamsburg.... (haha)
posted by bunnycup at 10:01 PM on April 20, 2007


Wow, a night I don't work. Hmmm.
posted by Bookhouse at 10:23 PM on April 20, 2007


Blind Tiger is too small for tons of people.
posted by brujita at 12:04 AM on April 21, 2007


Count me in. Is there a consensus on venue yet?
posted by timepiece at 8:23 AM on April 21, 2007


If no one objects, I'm calling the Temple Bar at 8 p.m.

See you all there!
posted by ThePinkSuperhero at 9:20 AM on April 21, 2007 [1 favorite]


I should drink free there for life for all the business I've steered their way these last six months.
posted by adamgreenfield at 12:28 PM on April 21, 2007


Temple? Isn't the new cool place Office? Or was it Bathroom. I keep forgetting.
posted by yeti at 12:47 PM on April 21, 2007


Temple closes at 2 am. Ambitious goal - close Temple and go to karaoke after. Who's with me?

(langeNU - yeah, I'll see you there. I will once again be loitering awkwardly by the bar, unsure of whether to buy beer or a mixed drink and generally looking like an overgrown doofus)
posted by taliaferro at 1:12 PM on April 21, 2007


I say I'm coming, but never show up ... so.... I'll be there!
posted by Julnyes at 1:28 PM on April 21, 2007


Detour on 13th, between 1st and 2nd (closer to first, north side) ... was surprisingly cool and not crowded. Very cool bartenders and clientèle, more of a neighborhood bar.

Also Madhatters is never crowded and is roomy, also really cool staff -- Lexington between 26th and 27th ...

Both are 4AM, I am nearly positive.
posted by geoff. at 6:10 PM on April 21, 2007


%@! Stuck in the Bay Area till early summer. Keep missing my chance to put handles to faces. adamgreenfield is correct- the Temple Bar is gorgeous, spacious, and the drinks are perfectly mixed. I feel far more sophisticated and civilized than I am whenever I spend an evening there. But my rec. is to arrive earlier if you want any chance of colonizing a table on a Friday night. At the worst, the career alcoholics can start drinking earlier before the rest of the cast arrives.
posted by foxy_hedgehog at 8:23 AM on April 22, 2007


Yeah, if we are going on Friday, let's start a little earlier maybe?
posted by dame at 8:08 AM on April 23, 2007


Ooh. I might be there.
posted by gaspode at 9:29 AM on April 23, 2007


I'm begging that we start early...I just remembered I have tickets to the Sunset Rubdown show that night at the Bowery.
posted by youcancallmeal at 5:58 PM on April 23, 2007


7 p.m. then?
posted by ThePinkSuperhero at 8:34 AM on April 24, 2007 [1 favorite]


Works for me.
posted by youcancallmeal at 9:08 AM on April 24, 2007


Weirdly, I'll be there (I'm from A-town)... So I'm crashing this fucker if at all possible!!!
posted by zpousman at 2:12 PM on April 24, 2007


It is looking less and less likely that I'll make it. I'll do what I normally do on a Friday night: light votive candles and meditate in front of my framed pictures of Matt and Jessamyn. So sad, I was excited.
posted by geoff. at 7:20 PM on April 24, 2007


"I'll do what I normally do on a Friday night: light votive candles and meditate in front of my framed pictures of Matt and Jessamyn."

Are you sure meditate was the word you were looking for?

So it's the Temple Bar at 7PM, then, right? Is there a consensus, or a quorum, or whatever?
posted by mr_crash_davis at 5:18 PM on April 25, 2007


Friday 7PM Temple. Lighting candles before Sunset Rubdown sundown. Gotcha.
posted by yeti at 7:24 AM on April 27, 2007


Mrs. enrevanche and I will be there.
posted by enrevanche at 7:30 PM on April 28, 2007


Does anyone have an intro/etiquette guide to Meet ups ... would drop by but hesitant ... how truly welcome are newbies or is it just awkward for the uninitiated?
posted by Azaadistani at 1:19 PM on April 30, 2007


New people welcome and encouraged to drop by! We were all meetup n00bs at one point!
posted by ThePinkSuperhero at 7:14 PM on April 30, 2007 [1 favorite]


How can a n00b figure out which gaggle of folks are the MeFites?
posted by spec80 at 7:35 AM on May 4, 2007


The one with the cute girls and nerdy boys.
posted by dame at 7:38 AM on May 4, 2007


I'll be wearing alligator cowboy boots, if it helps.
posted by hermitosis at 9:25 AM on May 4, 2007


I'll be the guy in the Modesto Nuts hat with the Seth Bullock 'stache.
posted by jonmc at 11:20 AM on May 4, 2007


You guys have fun tonight. I couldn't make it into NYC today, so can't be there, but looking forward to meeting up with you all next time!
posted by psmealey at 12:00 PM on May 4, 2007


We'll see you there.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 1:26 PM on May 4, 2007


I'm having nightmares about this:

"Hi... You uhhh, are you girls Mefites?"
"What? Are you hitting on me? What the fuck does that even mean?" *splashes beer in my face*

So, I'll be the guy wearing beer. Look for me.
posted by yeti at 1:36 PM on May 4, 2007


I'll be the one throwing beer on yeti.
posted by piratebowling at 2:42 PM on May 4, 2007


yeti: Are you girls Mefites?
girls: What the f... Yeah, I'll fight you!
[girl puts knee in yeti's groin]
Yeti: ow

The End.
posted by psmealey at 2:54 PM on May 4, 2007


I'll be the one trying to decide if that girl throwing beer on that guy is piratebowling and yeti or just normal barroom excitement.
posted by Skorgu at 3:02 PM on May 4, 2007


Just wondering where everyone might have gone if I get there after everyone else, and there has been some kind of sticker shock reconsideration.
posted by StickyCarpet at 3:04 PM on May 4, 2007


Having a great time, wish you were here.

Had to park TWO MILES away, in a crummy little garage where they are probably stripping my rental car even as we speak, but I made it.

Note to jonmc: You suck at answering your cell phone.

(Posted via BlackBerry)
posted by mr_crash_davis at 3:17 PM on May 4, 2007


I got lost looking for an ATM along the way, but nice to meet y'all.
posted by qvtqht at 7:58 PM on May 4, 2007


You guys definitely looked like you were having fun.
posted by adamgreenfield at 8:50 PM on May 4, 2007


Good times! Although all the changing of venues made me a little seasick. Nothing that pastrami couldn't fix.
posted by ThePinkSuperhero at 10:37 PM on May 4, 2007 [1 favorite]


What a lovely time. Thank you to all the east coast Mefites for making an old man from the flyover states feel welcome.
posted by mr_crash_davis at 10:50 PM on May 4, 2007


Awwwww, we love you so.
posted by ThePinkSuperhero at 10:53 PM on May 4, 2007 [1 favorite]


Oh, and I took a few pics at Katz's, which shall be posted in the next day or two.
posted by ThePinkSuperhero at 10:54 PM on May 4, 2007 [1 favorite]


I just want to say that:

I totally got punched in the face (by jonmc - he's not as nice as you'd think. Sure, he wants to buy you beers and indroduce you to punk rock legends, but he's a wuss vs liquor). Is this how you treat your out of townwers? Seriously.

However, everything was made up via an AWESOME view of the city from Nerve.com's rooftop.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 12:09 AM on May 5, 2007


I found and killed a roach when I got back to my apartment after confusion with the F line.

What a perfect NY evening :) It was great to meet all of you!
posted by spec80 at 4:59 AM on May 5, 2007


So, let's hear some more details for those of us too lame to attend. Did you rowdy bastards get 86d from the Temple Bar? Where did you all end up?
posted by psmealey at 6:49 AM on May 5, 2007


We left Temple after we realized how our normal antics (taking photos, talking about cocks loudly, etc) were getting us the stink eye. I'm not sure if we were officially 86'd, but I do feel as if the waitstaff was taking mental polaroids of us, and filing under the "do not ever let these fuckers back in" folder. It was nice, but for our group, it was just a little off. As jonmc put it, "We need a place where you can piss outside."

We then trekked, Oregon-trail style, to a second bar (Manitoba's?) which had a kick ass jukebox and was playing the Mariners/Yankees game. The drinks were significantly cheaper, which was the catalyst for the group to splinter off. Some went off to Karaoke, others to Katz's, and apparently a third to rooftops. It was definitely the Choose-your-own-adventure of meetups, and fantastically fun.
posted by piratebowling at 7:25 AM on May 5, 2007


Nah. It was just too expensive-$9 a beer. So we went over to Manitoba's on Ave B, cheaper, more relaxed atmosphere, and Handsome Dick was around and said hi. Then we went to katz's and ate sandwiches. a good time was had by all.
posted by jonmc at 7:26 AM on May 5, 2007


And after the sandwiches ... group sex!
posted by mr_crash_davis at 7:27 AM on May 5, 2007


Oh yeah, the prices too. I thought I'd mentioned that. Oh well.
posted by piratebowling at 7:35 AM on May 5, 2007


Yeah, the group sex was an overpriced ripoff, IMO.
posted by mkultra at 8:02 AM on May 5, 2007


There were a lot of people there, and it was impressive how large the group stayed as it moved to (at least) three different venues, none of which were very close to the others.
posted by bingo at 9:52 AM on May 5, 2007


One MeFite's experience:

1. Temple is way too dark and expensive a bar to serve a TGIF-esque cocktail like their "Fenced In By a Wall of Fudge".

2. The waiter tried to push me around. When he told me I couldn't sit at (or near) the overcrowded grownup's table, I said sweetly, "But it will just be awkward if I'm standing!" Later, I saw him cringe when I violated their carefully cultivated sepulchral darkness with a flash photograph, and so I made sure to take several more, just when his pupils were sure to have dilated back into 8-balls.

3. I'm glad I got banished to the kids table (I prefer to think of it as being "sidebarred") because I got to meet the first-timers as they drifted in! As they practically sat on my lap one at a time due to seating constraints, I all but got to find out exactly what they wanted for Christmas and whether they've been good boys and girls. Please come visit us again.

4. Being ready to abndon Temple in a hot minute, the exodus to Manitoba's was refreshing. Our next meetup should be a parade.

5. I spilled a beer while bragging about my favorites. Guess I'll be off to rehab any day now.

6. The women of MetaFilter are HOTT.

7. A few a' you fellas ain't so bad yerownselves.

8. Karaoke dreams were made a reality. While Taliaferro deserves full credit for making it happen and for being our singalong mascot, I have never heard anything like Help, I Can't Stop Talking!'s version of "Tainted Love", which I think could probably be heard from the sidewalk-- man that kid's voice has a boomin' booty! Be there next time when Taliaferro, piratebowling, and I transform "Paradise By the Dashboard Light" into exquisite three-part harmony.

9. Also props to brujita, who, according to her song, might like you better if you slept together. It takes mucho attitude to successfully sneer through a song like that.

10. Apparently if you are late for your song because you are in the bathroom, they will totally back that shit up for you so you can have a do-over, sparing the crowd your Fiona Apple-like meltdown.

I love you all and would do it again in a second.
posted by hermitosis at 9:59 AM on May 5, 2007


7. A few a' you fellas ain't so bad yerownselves.

Dude, I'm flattered, but I'm married.

the exodus to Manitoba's was refreshing.

Dude, that places rules. Cheap, dank, great jukebox and run by one of my cultural heroes, who I introduced to a few locky mefites. Also, I didn't mean to bloody robocop's nose, and I wound up bloodying myself a few times last night.
posted by jonmc at 10:06 AM on May 5, 2007


(and next karaoke meetup, I shall regale you all with 'Cat Scratch Fever.')
posted by jonmc at 10:08 AM on May 5, 2007


As a member of the Lame-American community, I demand pictures.

Please start with the group sex.
posted by jason's_planet at 11:06 AM on May 5, 2007


(and next karaoke meetup, I shall regale you all with 'Cat Scratch Fever.')

Seeing as how I was a no-show and I am not within my right to do so, I am nevertheless going to start shilling for the next NYC MeFi meetup to be at a live band karoake show (Arlene Grocery, Cutting Room, Magnetic Field, etc.).
posted by psmealey at 11:09 AM on May 5, 2007


hermitosis, I'm brushing up one the "girl" part of PBTDL. You better be ready to make me your wife.
posted by piratebowling at 11:18 AM on May 5, 2007 [1 favorite]


Everyone who decided not to go to karaoke missed the hell out. Sorry if I was overloud, hermitosis; I prefer volume over quality. We (at least, I) need an official karaoke meetup quite badly, kids. I'm dying without one, and last night's dry run confirmed the amount of talent and audacity this group can bring. I'm hoping brujita will agree to a duet of "Don't Go Breaking My Heart" with me next time.
posted by Help, I can't stop talking! at 12:19 PM on May 5, 2007


Ok, I never thought I would say this, but I think I'm sorry I missed the karaoke. I demand a list of users accompanied by the songs that they picked.
posted by bingo at 12:33 PM on May 5, 2007


Taliaferro performed "Take on me" by A-ha!. Help, I can't stop talking did "Tainted love" but mixed in the lyrics to Rihanna's "SOS" hermitosis did Roy Orbison's Blue Bayou ( think he did another, as well, but now I can't remember it). I did "Boys & Girls" by Blur, and brujita sang "Never say never" by Romeo Void.

I think that was everything. I paid to do "Space Oddity", but we all decided to leave early. Next time, major Tom.
posted by piratebowling at 1:13 PM on May 5, 2007


Thanks for the offer, Help I can't stop talking!.....I'm in an X sort of mood right now. How about "Well, Did You Evah"?

Next time I need to be closer to the speakers....and I shouldn't make assumptions.
posted by brujita at 1:31 PM on May 5, 2007


Patience, patience, young people. Look out for an official Metafilter karaoke meetup sometime in June. I've already begun plannning (well, in my mind, anyway).
posted by ThePinkSuperhero at 1:47 PM on May 5, 2007 [1 favorite]


It's so difficult to reach out, even when the players are right in front of you. I've always tended to gravitate to people I've met on IRC. So I managed to meet one new person from there. The rest of you, I'm sorry I couldn't break that barrier.

I have an ambivalent relationship with quintessentially New York institutions, so I'd like to thank jonmc for dragging a majority of us down to Katz's, which I previously avoided like the plague. Places with their own way of doing things scare me. To put it more plainly, I hate being a newbie at anything. The experience ended up being delicious.

And thanks to crash for calling this meetup in the first place. It was good to see you again.

Maybe I missed the shout out part of the evening, but here are mine. fishfucker, salmonberry, JanetLand, taz. You are missed.
posted by attackthetaxi at 2:17 PM on May 5, 2007


Attackthetaxi, taz is the goddess of Metachat--and JanetLand posts quite a bit over there too.
posted by brujita at 2:39 PM on May 5, 2007


I'm so sorry--i thought it was tonight instead of last night...
posted by amberglow at 3:13 PM on May 5, 2007


Katz's, which I previously avoided like the plague.

It's okay as long as no one remembers the "Harry Met Sally" orgasm scene. Once someone does, and feels the need to re-enact it, it's over and time to go.
posted by psmealey at 3:46 PM on May 5, 2007


I saw something shiny after the temple exodus and got distracted, not knowing there would be even the chance of karaoke. But actual karoke took place? Man. Next time, let's karaoke rapture until we karaoke rupture.
posted by mochapickle at 6:01 PM on May 5, 2007


"It's okay as long as no one remembers the "Harry Met Sally" orgasm scene. Once someone does, and feels the need to re-enact it, it's over and time to go."

I was told in advance about that, at which time I promised a reenactment. Once we arrived, no one reminded me - which was probably for the best.

I would, however, like to see PICTURES WHICH I KNOW WERE TAKEN. I unfortunately forgot to bring my camera (left it in the rental car, which thankfully was completely unmolested. Apparently in NYC you can't judge a garage by its facade).
posted by mr_crash_davis at 9:01 PM on May 5, 2007


I'll make Stynx post mine tomorrow!!
posted by ThePinkSuperhero at 9:19 PM on May 5, 2007 [1 favorite]


Photo...
Photo...
posted by hermitosis at 9:56 AM on May 6, 2007


Awesome meetup all, for my first it set quite a bar for future ones.
posted by Skorgu at 10:41 AM on May 6, 2007


Sorry I missed y'all with the venue change. I walked into Temple a little tardy and I felt las if I had walked in on a board meeting. Fa-aaancy. "This can't be right," I thought -to which the bartender shhh'd me and whispered "KEEP YOUR THOUGHTS DOWN!"
posted by yeti at 11:57 AM on May 6, 2007


The pictures I took at Katz's.
posted by ThePinkSuperhero at 5:47 PM on May 6, 2007 [1 favorite]


Yay pictures!
posted by mr_crash_davis at 6:13 PM on May 6, 2007


I took a few, they're not in a set but not hard to find! (thx to TPS for adding the names. :) They start here. If you go in the wrong direction, you'll end up in cute-sleeping-gerbil-land, which isn't a bad place to be.
posted by veronitron at 8:31 PM on May 6, 2007


Sounds like another storied NYC meetup. (At least I always end up with good stories to tell.) Too bad I missed it. Slash forgot.
posted by smackfu at 9:43 PM on May 6, 2007


I think there's a direct correlation between my blood alcohol level and how many pictures of me have my middle finger extended.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 6:15 AM on May 7, 2007


Robocop, you and I clearly should have superimposed/coordinated our drunken gesturing.
posted by Skorgu at 7:35 AM on May 7, 2007


Great pictures, now I know who I missed entirely. That PinkSuperhero, she is good with the names.
posted by attackthetaxi at 9:35 AM on May 7, 2007


you guys showed crash a good time?
posted by amberglow at 2:05 PM on May 7, 2007


Well we tried, but you weren't there, and we broke down crying, sobbing, and ended up going home early.
posted by ThePinkSuperhero at 2:15 PM on May 7, 2007 [1 favorite]


now i feel better--thanks hon! ; >
posted by amberglow at 3:46 PM on May 7, 2007


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